Huseby, Inc.
 

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          1                   UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

 

          2            FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF NORTH CAROLINA

 

          3                        CHARLOTTE DIVISION

 

          4

               UNITED STATES OF AMERICA     )

          5                                 )

                                            )

          6            vs.                  )  File No. 3:97CR23-P

                                            )

          7    AQUILIA MARCIVICCI BARNETTE, )  SENTENCING PHASE

                                            )

          8            Defendant.           )

                                            )

          9

 

         10

 

         11                 Transcript of proceedings before the Honorable

 

         12    ROBERT D. POTTER, Senior United States District Court Judge,

 

         13    before Scott A. Huseby, Official Court Reporter and Notary

 

         14    Public, on the 4th day of February, 1998.

 

         15    APPEARANCES:

 

         16    For the United States:

 

         17       ROBERT J. CONRAD, JR.

                  THOMAS G. WALKER

         18       Assistant United States Attorneys

                  227 West Trade Street, Suite 1700

         19       Charlotte, North Carolina  28204

 

         20    On Behalf of the Defendant:

 

         21       GEORGE V. LAUGHRUN, Esq.

                  Suite 602

         22       301 South McDowell Street

                  Charlotte, North Carolina  28204

         23

 

         24

 

         25

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    APPEARANCES: (Continued)

                  PAUL J. WILLIAMS, Esq.

          2       Suite 801

                  301 South McDowell Street

          3       Charlotte, North Carolina  28204

 

          4

 

          5                              ---

 

          6

 

          7            THE COURT:  Good morning, everyone.

 

          8            MR. CONRAD:  Good morning, Your Honor.

 

          9            THE COURT:  We're ready for the jury, I assume, call the

 

         10    jury.

 

         11            (The jury returned to the courtroom.)

 

         12            THE COURT:  Good morning.  I see you have your coats,

 

         13    glad to see you have your coats this morning.  I think you must

 

         14    come in and test the temperature before you come out here.  I

 

         15    assume y'all are a little bit chilly, is that right?

 

         16            (Jurors nod heads.)

 

         17            THE COURT:  We'll try to see if we can get the heat

 

         18    turned on sometime during the day.

 

         19            All right, members of the jury, we are ready for more

 

         20    evidence on the part of the defendant.

 

         21            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you, Your Honor.  The defense calls

 

         22    Cindy or Cynthia Maxwell, if Your Honor please.

 

         23                         CYNTHIA NEAGLE MAXWELL,

 

         24    being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

 

         25                           DIRECT EXAMINATION

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

          2       Q.   State your name, please.

 

          3       A.   Cynthia Neagle Maxwell.

 

          4       Q.   Ms. Maxwell, were you at our request appointed by the

 

          5    Court, this Court to assist the defense in this case?

 

          6       A.   Yes, I was.

 

          7       Q.   And in that regard, were you asked to prepare a life

 

          8    history of Mark Barnette?

 

          9       A.   I was.

 

         10       Q.   Now, with regard to preparing a life history of Mark

 

         11    Barnette, have you had any experience in doing that?

 

         12       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         13       Q.   And have you had any experience or in your background

 

         14    any mental health experience or experience in social work?

 

         15       A.   I have experience in both.

 

         16       Q.   And have you been asked in the past to prepare life

 

         17    histories for other lawyers in other cases?

 

         18       A.   I have.

 

         19       Q.   And were those all in capital defense cases?

 

         20       A.   Specific life histories have always been in capital

 

         21    defense cases.

 

         22            MR. WILLIAMS:  If I may approach, Your Honor, I think

 

         23    that microphone may be a little high, if I may.  Can you hear

 

         24    her all right?

 

         25            THE COURT:  Can y'all hear her?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE CLERK:  If she talks louder, it will be all right.

 

          2            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

          3       Q.   I'm sorry, your answer to that question was what?

 

          4       A.   Specific life histories have been in capital cases for

 

          5    the defense.

 

          6       Q.   And have you had experience in your past in doing that?

 

          7       A.   Yes, I have.

 

          8       Q.   And have you participated in any seminars and experience

 

          9    in preparing life histories?

 

         10       A.   I have.

 

         11       Q.   And how many life histories have you prepared in the

 

         12    past in regard to a person charged in a criminal case,

 

         13    particularly a capital case?

 

         14       A.   For capital cases, I have worked on and prepared life

 

         15    histories in 14 cases where the life history was typed and

 

         16    submitted to defense counsel.  I have assisted and consulted on

 

         17    criminal cases and child abuse cases and life histories for

 

         18    those people.  I have done probably 30 or 40 life histories that

 

         19    were not necessarily typed but were verbally given to defense

 

         20    counsel.

 

         21       Q.   Now, what -- tell the jury just briefly what you do to

 

         22    first obtain a life history.

 

         23       A.   I interview the defendant and the defendant's family and

 

         24    any members of the family or significant others that the

 

         25    defendant sends me to interview.  I review records, and from

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    those records I find other names of people and agencies,

 

          2    institutions, whom I interview.  I then ask those people if

 

          3    there is anyone else I should interview and I go and interview

 

          4    those people.  I talk with -- whenever I can find a phone number

 

          5    or have access to victims, I do talk to victims if I can find

 

          6    them.  I talk with teachers and doctors and nurses and just

 

          7    anybody I can find that knows the defendant and try --

 

          8       Q.   As a result of that and doing a life history, do you

 

          9    prepare what is called a life line --

 

         10       A.   Yes, I do.

 

         11       Q.   -- in that regard?

 

         12       A.   Yes, I do.

 

         13            THE COURT:  Excuse me just a minute.  Is that gentleman

 

         14    that just came in, is he a witness in the case?

 

         15            MR. LAUGHRUN:  No, sir.

 

         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  No, sir, he is a lawyer.

 

         17            THE COURT:  Oh, okay, thank you.  Lawyers can't be

 

         18    witnesses.

 

         19            MR. WILLIAMS:  It's Mr. Brook, Your Honor.

 

         20            THE COURT:  Not very good witnesses anyway.  All right,

 

         21    go ahead.

 

         22            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         23       Q.   Now, when you prepare a life history and -- let me

 

         24    strike that.  Were you -- when were you appointed in this case

 

         25    to assist the defense, about how long ago?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   May 25th, 1997.

 

          2       Q.   And since that time, in the process of preparing a life

 

          3    history and going into the background and reviewing records and

 

          4    doing all that, about how many hours have you spent doing that?

 

          5       A.   Somewhere between 200 and 300 hours.

 

          6       Q.   Now, after you do a life history, do you then put it in

 

          7    a visual form such as a life line?

 

          8       A.   Yes, I do.

 

          9       Q.   And how do you obtain or how do you prepare the life

 

         10    line, where do you get the information that goes in the life

 

         11    line to present as a visual history of the client's life, how do

 

         12    you do that, where do you get that information from?

 

         13       A.   From the life history, which is a compilation of the

 

         14    interviews and information that I have obtained.

 

         15       Q.   And when you do the life line, do you sometimes include

 

         16    photographs in the life line that have been provided to you from

 

         17    members of the family to indicate the life of, in this case Mark

 

         18    Barnette at different times of his life?

 

         19       A.   Yes, I do.

 

         20            MR. WILLIAMS:  If I may approach the witness, Your

 

         21    Honor?

 

         22            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

         23            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         24       Q.   If I may show you Defendant's Exhibit 28B and 28C and

 

         25    28D, and ask you if you recognize those photographs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   Yes, I do.

 

          2       Q.   And on the backs of the photographs, are there any

 

          3    markings?

 

          4       A.   Yes, there are markings.

 

          5       Q.   Okay.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, we would stipulate to these

 

          7    photographs which have already been admitted, and we would

 

          8    stipulate as well to the admission of the life line.

 

          9            THE COURT:  All right.

 

         10            MR. WILLIAMS:  All right, thank you very much.

 

         11            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         12       Q.   Let me hand you Defendant's Exhibit Number 43, and ask

 

         13    you if that is the life line that you prepared in this case with

 

         14    regard to the life of Mark Barnette?

 

         15       A.   Yes, it is.

 

         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  If Your Honor please, we offer that

 

         17    exhibit into evidence and ask that the jury be allowed to be

 

         18    passed a notebook that has -- well, before I do that, I have one

 

         19    more question to ask her.

 

         20            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         21       Q.   The notebook includes the life line, and also were

 

         22    you -- did you obtain from Mr. Barnette some drawings or

 

         23    art -- samples of his artwork that he has done since he has been

 

         24    in prison?

 

         25       A.   Since he's been in jail, yes, sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            MR. WILLIAMS:  May I approach, Your Honor?

 

          2            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

          3            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

          4       Q.   And let me show you Exhibits 29A, B, C and D, and ask

 

          5    you if those are the drawings that you obtained from Mark

 

          6    Barnette that he did, from what he told you, since he's been in

 

          7    jail?

 

          8       A.   Yes.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  We'd offer those into evidence, Your

 

         10    Honor, and now ask that the notebook be passed to the jury

 

         11    showing those two exhibits.

 

         12            THE COURT:  There is no objection to the notebook?

 

         13            MR. WILLIAMS:  We have taken out everything in the

 

         14    notebook except the life line and those photographs.

 

         15            THE COURT:  All right, let them be admitted.

 

         16            MR. CONRAD:  Does the notebook have an exhibit number?

 

         17            MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, the notebook is going to be the

 

         18    Exhibit 43A.

 

         19            THE COURT:  43A?  All right, the notebook as it is

 

         20    passed to the jury will be admitted.

 

         21            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you, Your Honor.

 

         22            THE COURT:  And also 29 -- well, you've already got 28

 

         23    in, I think -- 29A, B, C and D.  Was there anything else?  That

 

         24    was all, wasn't it, okay, thank you.

 

         25            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Very briefly, would you come down in front of the jury

 

          2    while the notebooks are being passed out so we can move along as

 

          3    quickly as possible, and I will ask you if Defendant's Exhibit

 

          4    43A is the same thing as the life line for Mr. Barnette but put

 

          5    together on a large board?

 

          6       A.   Yes.

 

          7            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, just for clarification, I

 

          8    thought 43A was the notebook that was passed to the jury.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  I'm sorry, it is.  43B would be the

 

         10    blowup of the life line.  I'm sorry, Your Honor.

 

         11            THE COURT:  43B, all right, it will be admitted, and

 

         12    43A.

 

         13            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         14       Q.   Now, Exhibit 43B, I just want you to briefly explain to

 

         15    the jury at this point, using the notebooks that the jurors have

 

         16    at the beginning of the first page in the notebook of the life

 

         17    line, is that this page here beginning in 1973?

 

         18       A.   I think we are going to stand in front.  If I pull it

 

         19    this way, I think --

 

         20            THE CLERK:  There is a pointer if you need one.

 

         21            MR. WILLIAMS:  May I have a pointer, Your Honor?

 

         22            THE COURT:  We have one right here, Mr. Williams.

 

         23            MR. WILLIAMS:  I have one, Your Honor.

 

         24            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         25       Q.   With regard to the first item that I'm pointing out

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    right now, is that the first page of the life line that's in the

 

          2    notebook?

 

          3       A.   Yes, it is.

 

          4       Q.   And then the second page that's in the notebook for the

 

          5    jurors is this page here?

 

          6       A.   That's correct.

 

          7       Q.   And then do the rest of the -- if you can stand right

 

          8    over here where I am.  And are the rest of the pages in

 

          9    sequential order on this life line going in this direction

 

         10    (indicating)?

 

         11       A.   Yes.

 

         12       Q.   As they appear in the notebook for the jurors?

 

         13       A.   Yes, that's correct.

 

         14       Q.   Now, I notice that there are photographs in that life

 

         15    line.  Are those the photographs that have been admitted into

 

         16    evidence that you testified you obtained, I believe from Sonia

 

         17    Barnette?

 

         18       A.   Those are the photographs, yes.

 

         19       Q.   And there are also, if you could explain briefly to the

 

         20    jury what this life line has in it with regard to the different

 

         21    colors.  I believe there is a color code down here in the lower

 

         22    left-hand page -- lower left-hand corner of each page.  Would

 

         23    you explain what that color code is?

 

         24       A.   Yes.  The magenta or the first color is for Mark's

 

         25    employment during his life, and the green is for every move that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    he made.  The red is for the violence that has been in his life,

 

          2    and the blue indicates information about significant others.

 

          3       Q.   Okay.  And did you determine or did you make a

 

          4    determination in putting this life line into this form, into a

 

          5    visual exhibit, make determinations as to what went in there?

 

          6       A.   Yes, I did.

 

          7       Q.   And what were the reasons you made those determinations?

 

          8       A.   The determinations were made based on commonly accepted

 

          9    risk factors.

 

         10            MR. CONRAD:  Objection, this witness is not an expert on

 

         11    risk factors, Your Honor.

 

         12            THE COURT:  Sustained.

 

         13            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         14       Q.   In any event, did you take the various events from Mark

 

         15    Barnette's life and place them in this life line?

 

         16       A.   Yes.

 

         17       Q.   And did you obtain that information from the life

 

         18    history that you obtained from your interviews of over 200 hours

 

         19    with various people and reviewing records?

 

         20       A.   Yes, that's right.

 

         21       Q.   Thank you very much, you may take the stand.

 

         22            MR. WILLIAMS:  I believe I have offered that exhibit,

 

         23    Your Honor, but it's offered again to illustrate the testimony

 

         24    of the witnesses and to illustrate the life story of

 

         25    Mr. Barnette in visual form.  You may cross-examine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.  If you want to move that, you

 

          2    can.

 

          3            MR. CONRAD:  I will leave that for the moment, Your

 

          4    Honor, thank you.

 

          5            THE COURT:  Can you see the witness?

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  I can.

 

          7            MR. WILLIAMS:  I'll be glad to move it.

 

          8            MR. CONRAD:  I said I would leave it there.

 

          9                            CROSS-EXAMINATION

 

         10            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         11       Q.   Ms. Maxwell, you indicated that you had some training.

 

         12    What type of training did you have to put together a life line?

 

         13       A.   I have training in the mental health field.  I have a

 

         14    B.A. in psychology from the University of North Carolina at

 

         15    Chapel Hill.  I have been a therapist and an emergency telephone

 

         16    worker at Mecklenburg Mental Health and Gaston Lincoln Mental

 

         17    Health.  I did an internship at Butner while a student in

 

         18    psychology.

 

         19       Q.   How long ago was that?

 

         20       A.   That was in 1975 that I did the internship.

 

         21       Q.   After that, when is the first time you did a life line?

 

         22       A.   That I actually did a life line?

 

         23       Q.   Right.

 

         24       A.   I started doing these life lines in 19 -- putting them

 

         25    on boards like this in 1993.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   And that was as a result of some specific training,

 

          2    wasn't it?

 

          3       A.   That was the result of some specific training.

 

          4       Q.   And what specific training was that?

 

          5       A.   I had one-on-one training from the mitigation specialist

 

          6    at the Center for Death Penalty Litigation who is a Master's in

 

          7    social work.

 

          8       Q.   And what is the Center for Death Penalty Litigation to

 

          9    your knowledge?

 

         10       A.   It is a center that studies death penalty cases and

 

         11    provides representation and consultation to defense attorneys.

 

         12       Q.   It's a think tank for defense attorneys with capital

 

         13    cases, correct?

 

         14       A.   That's a synopsis.

 

         15       Q.   And a resource for defense attorneys?

 

         16       A.   That's correct.

 

         17       Q.   And after you had that training, you've done some 14

 

         18    life histories did you say?

 

         19       A.   Yes, sir.

 

         20       Q.   And this is one of them?

 

         21       A.   This is one of them.

 

         22       Q.   Now, your chart has 15 pages in a notebook in three rows

 

         23    on a poster board, does it not?

 

         24       A.   That's correct.

 

         25       Q.   And Donnie Lee Allen and Robin Williams' murder, which

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    this case is all about, is a little tiny circle on the second to

 

          2    last page, correct?

 

          3       A.   Yes, sir, that's where it came in the life line.

 

          4       Q.   Turning your attention to the page which begins with

 

          5    1992, do you have a copy of the notebook in front of you?

 

          6       A.   I do.

 

          7       Q.   Does that --

 

          8       A.   That would be Page 10, the page numbers are in the lower

 

          9    right-hand corner.

 

         10       Q.   Right.  Does that show that the defendant spent 25 days

 

         11    in jail in 1992?

 

         12       A.   That's correct.

 

         13       Q.   And how do you know that?

 

         14       A.   I reviewed his criminal records.

 

         15       Q.   And does that show that soon after he got out of jail,

 

         16    he was arrested again for felonious conduct?

 

         17       A.   That shows that he was arrested in the first of 1993.

 

         18       Q.   Correct.  So soon after he got out of jail, spent 25

 

         19    days in jail for shooting someone, he was arrested again for

 

         20    felonious conduct in the early part of '93, correct?

 

         21       A.   Correct, he got out of jail in June of '92.

 

         22       Q.   Now, I think this orange color is supposed to signify

 

         23    violent events in the defendant's life, is that right?

 

         24       A.   That's correct.

 

         25       Q.   Where in 1993 have you drawn an orange circle showing

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    that the defendant beat the infant children of Crystal Dennis,

 

          2    can you point that out to the jury?

 

          3       A.   I did not color it orange.  What I did was I talked

 

          4    about -- and I did not color it any color actually.  In the

 

          5    beginning of 1993, I talked about the negotiated plea on two

 

          6    counts of cruelty to children.

 

          7       Q.   Did you not indicate there the significance of the event

 

          8    to you on January 28th, 1993 is that Mark was arrested and lost

 

          9    his Blockbuster job, is that the event where he beat the two

 

         10    children of Crystal Dennis, yes or no?

 

         11       A.   Yes, it is.

 

         12       Q.   And anywhere there did you indicate that he beat the two

 

         13    children of Crystal Dennis?

 

         14       A.   I did not -- I indicated --

 

         15       Q.   Yes or no?

 

         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, objection, Your Honor.

 

         17            THE COURT:  She hasn't answered the question.  Very

 

         18    simple, yes or no, and then she can explain.

 

         19            MR. WILLIAMS:  She has a right to explain it, Your

 

         20    Honor.

 

         21            THE WITNESS:  Yes, I did indicate it.

 

         22            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         23       Q.   And would you show the jury where it is that you

 

         24    indicated that he beat the two children, one age three and one

 

         25    age five, of Crystal Dennis?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   Underneath where he was arrested for the Blockbuster

 

          2    job, I have that he negotiated a plea of two counts of cruelty

 

          3    to children.

 

          4       Q.   So the significance to you is that he negotiated a plea,

 

          5    not that he beat the two children?

 

          6       A.   I think both are significant.

 

          7       Q.   But only one is reflected, correct?

 

          8       A.   If I could explain why I think both are significant.

 

          9       Q.   I'm asking you if only one of those things is reflected

 

         10    on your chart, can you answer me yes or no?

 

         11       A.   No, both are.

 

         12       Q.   Is it not colored in orange because in your opinion as a

 

         13    mitigation whatever, that you didn't think it was an act of

 

         14    violence?

 

         15            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Object to the mitigation whatever, Your

 

         16    Honor, that's --

 

         17            THE COURT:  Sustain that.

 

         18            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         19       Q.   Is it not reflected in orange because it wasn't

 

         20    significant to you as a violent episode?

 

         21       A.   Actually, it's not reflected in any color because I

 

         22    think it is both, and I did not have a way of representing both

 

         23    colors on this particular chart.  And so I put it with no color

 

         24    whatsoever because I think that it is both his job, which was

 

         25    significant to him as a person, and it is red as violent.  I did

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    not put --

 

          2       Q.   Where is it red as violent, that's what I don't

 

          3    understand?

 

          4       A.   I didn't put it in any color.

 

          5       Q.   You had no trouble circling Mark's attempted suicide,

 

          6    putting a circle around it and drawing that red, you had no

 

          7    trouble doing that, did you?

 

          8       A.   I had no trouble doing that, because that did not

 

          9    represent two different things at the same time.

 

         10       Q.   Do you know that after he, quote, negotiated the plea

 

         11    for the counts of cruelty to children, that he was put on

 

         12    probation?

 

         13       A.   Yes, I do know that.

 

         14       Q.   And where on your chart is it reflected that he was put

 

         15    on probation?

 

         16       A.   It is not reflected on the chart anywhere as is none of

 

         17    the other -- he was put on probation I believe yet another time,

 

         18    and that isn't represented.

 

         19       Q.   So the fact that he was put on probation twice in his

 

         20    adult life was not a fact that was significant to you enough so

 

         21    that you would put it on the chart?

 

         22       A.   I had to select what I had room to put on the chart, and

 

         23    I didn't select that.

 

         24       Q.   How much room would it have taken to put an arrow like

 

         25    you have here showing that the defendant was put on probation on

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    two occasions?

 

          2       A.   With the criminal records, I suppose I could have done

 

          3    that.  I didn't know that it was going to be a factor.  It is a

 

          4    part of the criminal record and a part of what has been entered,

 

          5    I believe.

 

          6       Q.   Did you ever talk to his probation officers?

 

          7       A.   I did not talk to his probation officers.

 

          8       Q.   Why not?

 

          9       A.   I called down there several times and couldn't find

 

         10    them.

 

         11       Q.   Did you ever talk to any probation officers in North

 

         12    Carolina?

 

         13       A.   No, I did not.

 

         14       Q.   Why not?

 

         15       A.   I was talking to other people.

 

         16       Q.   Uh-huh.  You have listed in 12-93 in red an altercation

 

         17    over Alesha at Bojangles', second degree trespass, Mark taken to

 

         18    the emergency room with head and elbow injuries, do you see

 

         19    that?

 

         20       A.   I do, on Page 11.

 

         21       Q.   Now, you know that that actually didn't happen in

 

         22    December, rather it happened in November, correct?

 

         23       A.   It happened at the very end of November and the

 

         24    beginning of December.

 

         25       Q.   Well, it actually happened November 12th, did it not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   No, that was a different incident.

 

          2       Q.   Oh, really?  What happened on November 12th that is

 

          3    different than the Bojangles' incident?

 

          4       A.   I need to refer, I believe, to my records for that.

 

          5    What I remember from the records is that there was one incident

 

          6    where he went into the house and --

 

          7       Q.   When you say went into the house --

 

          8            MR. WILLIAMS:  Objection, Your Honor, he is

 

          9    interrupting.

 

         10            THE COURT:  Excuse me just a minute.  He is asking what

 

         11    she means by went into the house.

 

         12            THE WITNESS:  Went into the home where Alesha Chambers

 

         13    was staying at the time.

 

         14            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         15       Q.   Kicked in the door?

 

         16       A.   I believe he did kick in that door, yes.

 

         17       Q.   Took her away?

 

         18       A.   Yes.

 

         19       Q.   Would it surprise to you to learn that that happened on

 

         20    November the 8th?

 

         21       A.   Actually, that was a very chaotic time in Mark's life --

 

         22       Q.   No, I'm --

 

         23       A.   -- and it wouldn't surprise me.

 

         24       Q.   But, I mean, you investigated all of this, you looked at

 

         25    police records, you came up with a life chart, and you're

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    telling this jury that on November 12th, Alesha is pregnant,

 

          2    Mark is charged with second degree kidnapping and three counts

 

          3    of assault with a deadly weapon?

 

          4       A.   Yes.

 

          5       Q.   And what incident are you referring to you when you put

 

          6    that on the chart?

 

          7       A.   I was referring to the incident that you were speaking

 

          8    of.

 

          9       Q.   The November 8th incident?

 

         10       A.   November 8th, that's a fine date for me, November -- in

 

         11    November of 1993.

 

         12       Q.   November 8th of 1993?

 

         13       A.   That's fine.

 

         14       Q.   And you know that he went to jail for that?

 

         15       A.   Yes.

 

         16       Q.   And that's not reflected on your chart, is it?

 

         17       A.   He was charged with second degree kidnapping, three

 

         18    counts of assault with a deadly weapon.

 

         19       Q.   You know he got out of jail a couple of days later and

 

         20    assaulted Ms. Chambers at the Bojangles' on November 12th, you

 

         21    know that, don't you?

 

         22       A.   That -- within the span of just a few days, yes, and I

 

         23    think that that is reflected on the chart, and I do have that he

 

         24    went to jail under the December event.

 

         25       Q.   Right.  But you now know the December event actually

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    occurred November 12th?

 

          2       A.   That is very likely.

 

          3       Q.   Now, you referred to it as a, quote, altercation.  You

 

          4    actually know that he held a knife to Alesha Chambers' throat

 

          5    and threatened to kill her, correct?

 

          6       A.   I think that's -- yes, that's what happened.  There

 

          7    were --

 

          8       Q.   Is that what you mean when you use the

 

          9    word "altercation", that the defendant held a knife to someone's

 

         10    throat and threatened to kill her?

 

         11       A.   Basically, yes.  There were -- if I can explain just a

 

         12    little bit, there were other people involved in that incident,

 

         13    and so it was bigger than just holding a knife to somebody's

 

         14    throat.  It was an altercation.

 

         15       Q.   It was much bigger than that.  You know as well that the

 

         16    defendant took that knife and started swinging it at other

 

         17    people, you know that, too, don't you?

 

         18       A.   From reading the criminal records, yes, I do.

 

         19       Q.   Did you ever talk to those witnesses?

 

         20       A.   I did not.

 

         21       Q.   Did you talk to Brent McCrickard, an eyewitness from

 

         22    T.K. Tripp?

 

         23       A.   I need to go back.  I did talk to Alesha Chambers at

 

         24    length.

 

         25       Q.   Did you talk to Brent Casey McCrickard?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   No, I did not.

 

          2       Q.   Had you talked to her, would you have learned that the

 

          3    defendant swung a knife at --

 

          4            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Objection, Judge, it's entirely

 

          5    speculative.

 

          6            THE COURT:  Overruled.

 

          7            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Had she talked to her, Judge?

 

          8            THE COURT:  Had she talked to her, overruled.

 

          9            THE WITNESS:  Can you repeat the question, please?

 

         10            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         11       Q.   If you had talked to Ms. McCrickard and she had told you

 

         12    she was an eyewitness to the defendant swinging a knife at

 

         13    several people, would you have put that on the chart?

 

         14            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Objection, it's speculation, Your Honor.

 

         15            THE COURT:  Overruled.

 

         16            THE WITNESS:  I think that I would have put on the chart

 

         17    exactly what I have here, because I can't put everything on the

 

         18    chart, it's a summation.

 

         19            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         20       Q.   You'd just call it an altercation and leave it at that?

 

         21       A.   I would.

 

         22       Q.   Now, you said that Mark was taken to the emergency

 

         23    room.  Did you list anywhere on the chart that Mark was taken to

 

         24    jail?

 

         25       A.   Yes, right underneath it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   This little tiny white box indicating jail?

 

          2       A.   That's correct.

 

          3       Q.   Now, on 3-25-94 you indicate, Mark charged with first

 

          4    degree rape and first degree kidnapping of Alesha Chambers,

 

          5    later dropped?

 

          6       A.   That's correct.

 

          7       Q.   But you don't put that in red?

 

          8       A.   It was later dropped.

 

          9       Q.   Well, you have several -- strike that.  So you don't put

 

         10    something in red unless there is a conviction that results from

 

         11    it, is that correct?

 

         12       A.   No, I think I have several things -- let me look.  If a

 

         13    conviction -- yes, I think that in this situation, I do wait for

 

         14    a conviction of some charges.  Some of the times, some of these

 

         15    charges that I have put in red are dropped or he is convicted of

 

         16    a lesser offense.  For instance, what I indicate as 11-12-93 and

 

         17    what you tell me was 11-8-93 with the arrow, he was later

 

         18    convicted of lesser charges.

 

         19       Q.   He was convicted by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt,

 

         20    correct?

 

         21       A.   Yes.

 

         22       Q.   Now, you had no trouble putting in red, Mark runs away

 

         23    from home, even though that's not a conviction?

 

         24       A.   Can you tell me what page we are on now?

 

         25       Q.   I will just point right here to right before 1980, Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    runs away from home and tells police his father beat him, that

 

          2    was put in red even though there is no conviction?

 

          3       A.   That was put in red because a child running away from

 

          4    home is --

 

          5       Q.   A crime of violence?

 

          6       A.   He said his father beat him.

 

          7       Q.   Was his father convicted of it?

 

          8       A.   No, I put Mark's convictions in red.  I didn't put other

 

          9    people's convictions.

 

         10       Q.   The only information you have that Mark ran away from

 

         11    home is that his father beat him was from Mark?

 

         12       A.   No, I had that information from his father and I had

 

         13    that information from his mother.

 

         14       Q.   On this particular --

 

         15       A.   And I had that information from his little brother.

 

         16            THE COURT:  Wait just a minute, let her finish and then

 

         17    you can ask a question.

 

         18            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         19       Q.   The red circle you have right before 1990, Mark runs

 

         20    away from home, tells police his father beat him, what

 

         21    specifically do you know about that incident?

 

         22       A.   I had been told about that incident by Mark.

 

         23       Q.   What did he tell you?

 

         24       A.   He went into great depth about why he ran away from

 

         25    home.  He was afraid to go home because of the grade that he

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    had.  And so he went home, nobody was at home when he would come

 

          2    home from school, and he went in, thought about it, thought

 

          3    about what was going to happen because of that grade.  And he

 

          4    drew me a map to the house that he went to up the street and

 

          5    told me what he had for dinner that night at that other house,

 

          6    told me that the police came, talked to the man at that house,

 

          7    told me that the police left, and then his father came up there

 

          8    to pick him up and he hid under the bed and they had to go into

 

          9    this friend's bedroom and drag him out from under the bed.

 

         10    Sonia then told me --

 

         11       Q.   Mark ran away because he was afraid his father might

 

         12    beat him for grades?

 

         13       A.   Yes.

 

         14       Q.   And that's sufficient for you to put it in red even

 

         15    though there is no conviction,, but you don't put in red the

 

         16    fact that he is charged with first degree rape, correct?

 

         17       A.   Now, the charge of first degree rape --

 

         18            THE COURT:  Wait, Ms. Maxwell, answer the question yes

 

         19    or no and then you can explain.

 

         20            THE WITNESS:  Could I get a clarification as to what

 

         21    page that -- is that still on Page 11 that we were talking

 

         22    about?

 

         23            MR. CONRAD:  It's on Page 12.

 

         24            THE WITNESS:  I did not put that in red, and if I may

 

         25    explain again.  It is not put in red, because it was later

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    dropped.

 

          2            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

          3       Q.   Now, you indicated you talked to Alesha Chambers?

 

          4       A.   Yes.

 

          5       Q.   She must have told you that shortly before that, Mark

 

          6    hit her with a baseball bat causing stitches to her arm?

 

          7       A.   Actually, she didn't tell me that.

 

          8       Q.   So the reason that incident is not on here, that act of

 

          9    violence, is because Alesha Chambers didn't tell you about it?

 

         10       A.   Right.

 

         11       Q.   Did Mark tell you about it?

 

         12       A.   I don't think he did, no.

 

         13       Q.   Now, you know that at this time when these acts are

 

         14    occurring that the defendant is on probation, correct?

 

         15       A.   Yes.

 

         16       Q.   Now, you have an entry for 5-24-95 in which --

 

         17       A.   Page 13?

 

         18       Q.   -- you have circled in red, Page 13, circled in red,

 

         19    Robin almost cuts off Mark's finger?

 

         20       A.   That's correct.

 

         21       Q.   There wasn't a conviction for that, was there?

 

         22       A.   There was no conviction for that, no.

 

         23       Q.   But that didn't keep you from circling it and painting

 

         24    it red, did it?

 

         25       A.   No, it didn't keep me from doing that, because I had the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    medical records.

 

          2       Q.   Tell the jury about what medical records, if any, you

 

          3    gathered in this case.

 

          4       A.   Actually, I had great difficulty gathering records in

 

          5    this case.

 

          6       Q.   I'd actually like for you just to tell the jury what

 

          7    medical records you gathered.

 

          8       A.   Okay.  I gathered the Carolinas Medical Center records

 

          9    for the gunshot wound that Mark suffered January 31st, 1995.  I

 

         10    gathered the Roanoke medical records with the initial finger

 

         11    incident where his finger was cut, May 24th, 1995.

 

         12       Q.   The incident you have on your chart, Robin almost cut

 

         13    off Mark's finger?

 

         14       A.   That's the incident.  The reinjury of his finger on

 

         15    May 30th, 1995.  The Charlotte pediatric records and Family

 

         16    Practice of Lithonia, Georgia medical records were put into the

 

         17    expert's notebook that I compiled as they were interviewing

 

         18    Mark.

 

         19       Q.   And are all of those medical records contained in a

 

         20    notebook that appears before you?

 

         21       A.   These are not all of the medical records we have,

 

         22    though.

 

         23       Q.   What other medical records do you have?

 

         24       A.   We had the -- these are all of the medical records we

 

         25    had on Mark.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Right, and that's what I'm asking about.

 

          2       A.   Okay.

 

          3       Q.   What medical records did you obtain concerning the

 

          4    defendant, Aquilia Marcivicci Barnette?

 

          5       A.   These are the medical records we have.

 

          6       Q.   All of the medical records that you gathered contained

 

          7    in that notebook which says expert's notebook attorneys?

 

          8       A.   Correct.

 

          9            MR. CONRAD:  All right, let me mark that for

 

         10    identification, Your Honor, I'm not sure what number, but I'm

 

         11    going to call it 70.

 

         12            THE COURT:  Well, let's see, Number 69, that's right, it

 

         13    would be 70.

 

         14            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         15       Q.   Which is a notebook labeled expert's notebook attorneys,

 

         16    and it's your testimony here today that the medical records you

 

         17    gathered in this case related to Aquilia Marcivicci Barnette are

 

         18    all in that notebook?

 

         19       A.   Correct.

 

         20       Q.   And you -- did you send those medical records to the

 

         21    various experts in this case?

 

         22       A.   I sent them to the defense experts.

 

         23       Q.   Okay.  And did you send any other medical records other

 

         24    than what is in the binder labeled Government's Exhibit 70

 

         25    related to the defendant?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   I faxed to them the birth records.

 

          2       Q.   I'm just talking about medical records.

 

          3       A.   Okay, no.

 

          4       Q.   Now, you indicated that your review of the medical

 

          5    records contained in Government's Exhibit 70 enabled you to draw

 

          6    a circle, color it red and put 5-24-95, Robin almost cuts off

 

          7    Mark's finger, correct?

 

          8       A.   Also my interviews.

 

          9       Q.   I would ask you to turn to Government's Exhibit 70 and

 

         10    find for the jury where it is in that exhibit that there is any

 

         11    indication at all in those medical records that Robin almost cut

 

         12    off Mark's finger.

 

         13       A.   The only indication that is there is that Mark went to

 

         14    the Roanoke hospital with a severely cut finger.

 

         15       Q.   There is no indication at all in those medical records,

 

         16    is there, that Robin cut that finger?

 

         17       A.   Not that Robin cut the finger, no, not in these records.

 

         18       Q.   In fact, the defendant was asked how his injury occurred

 

         19    and he never once in any of those medical records indicated that

 

         20    Robin cut his finger?

 

         21       A.   Not in these records.

 

         22       Q.   So when you told the jury earlier that you had the

 

         23    medical records and as a result you could write, Robin almost

 

         24    cut off Mark's finger, that was incorrect?

 

         25       A.   No, sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Well, you now are testifying that that circle comes from

 

          2    something other than the medical records, correct?

 

          3       A.   My interview.

 

          4       Q.   Thank you.  Now, you have entries 9-29-95 and 12-31-95

 

          5    that Angelica is five and little Mark is four, correct?

 

          6       A.   Yes.

 

          7       Q.   And those are significant there because they are

 

          8    significant events in the defendant's life?

 

          9       A.   Correct.

 

         10       Q.   Is there any indication in your chart that the defendant

 

         11    ever went down to Newnan, Georgia to see Angelica or little

 

         12    Mark?

 

         13       A.   Yes.

 

         14       Q.   There is?

 

         15       A.   Ask the question again.

 

         16       Q.   In your efforts in this case, your 200, 300 hours, is

 

         17    there any indication at all that this defendant ever went down

 

         18    to Newnan, Georgia to see Angelica or little Mark?

 

         19       A.   He lived with them for a while.

 

         20       Q.   Well, and when he moved out and came to Charlotte, is

 

         21    there any evidence in your 200, 300 hours that you put in this

 

         22    case that he ever went back to Newnan, Georgia to see his

 

         23    children?

 

         24       A.   No.  What happened was, if I can explain that, what

 

         25    happened was the children were brought up here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   One time?

 

          2       A.   One time.

 

          3       Q.   For one month?

 

          4       A.   My information says that it was more than one month.

 

          5       Q.   But anyways, in 1995 when you have these entries, they

 

          6    are entries because they are significant in the defendant's

 

          7    life, but you have no evidence that he had any contact with

 

          8    those children at all on that occasion, correct?

 

          9       A.   On the occasion of their birthdays?

 

         10       Q.   Where you have listed on the chart significant events in

 

         11    the defendant's life, there's no evidence that he did as much as

 

         12    send a card on those days to those children?

 

         13       A.   No evidence that he sent a card, no.

 

         14       Q.   Called or visited or did anything on those days?

 

         15       A.   I first got these out of his daytimer.  For what it's

 

         16    worth, he did have it indicated in the daytimer.

 

         17       Q.   4-11-96, you have colored in green, which means a move,

 

         18    that Mark is kicked out by Robin and must return to Charlotte,

 

         19    do you see that entry, Page 14?

 

         20       A.   I do.

 

         21       Q.   Is there any indication in there that he took Robin's

 

         22    car and locked her out of the apartment on 4-11-96?

 

         23       A.   No, there is not, and --

 

         24       Q.   Did you become aware that, in fact, he took Robin's car

 

         25    and drove it to Charlotte after he got kicked out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   Yes, I knew that.

 

          2       Q.   5-21-96, you have listed in white the purchase of a

 

          3    gun.  Was that the purchase of the murder weapon in this case?

 

          4       A.   I think that it was, yes.

 

          5       Q.   Do you have any -- any indication here that the

 

          6    defendant provided false information to require that murder

 

          7    weapon?

 

          8       A.   No, I think that's in evidence, though.

 

          9       Q.   It's what?

 

         10       A.   I think that's already been put in evidence.

 

         11       Q.   Any indication on this life line of significant events

 

         12    in the defendant's life that the day before, he purchased

 

         13    another pump shotgun?

 

         14       A.   That is not on this life line.

 

         15       Q.   Why isn't it on the life line?

 

         16       A.   I couldn't include everything, and I thought that the

 

         17    purchase of that gun was more significant than the purchase of

 

         18    the other.

 

         19       Q.   Did you even know about the purchase of the first gun?

 

         20       A.   I became aware of it later on.

 

         21       Q.   And when did you become aware of it?

 

         22       A.   I don't know exactly.

 

         23       Q.   You don't remember?

 

         24       A.   Not exactly.

 

         25       Q.   Did you become aware of it as a result of discovery

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    produced in this case and not as a result of anything that the

 

          2    defendant or anybody else in the defense team told you?

 

          3       A.   I did become aware of it as a result of discovery, yes.

 

          4       Q.   The defendant never told you he purchased two illegal

 

          5    weapons, did he, or illegally purchased two weapons, never told

 

          6    you that, did he?

 

          7       A.   No.

 

          8       Q.   And he never told you, or did he tell you that between

 

          9    the fire bombing and the murder that he had gone up to Roanoke,

 

         10    Virginia, did he ever tell you that?

 

         11       A.   No, he did not.

 

         12       Q.   Did he ever tell you that he left cards on the

 

         13    windshield of Robin Williams' car after he fire bombed her

 

         14    apartment and she went to UVA hospital for skin grafts, did he

 

         15    ever tell you that?

 

         16       A.   No.

 

         17       Q.   If he had told you that, would that have been

 

         18    significant enough to put on the time line?

 

         19       A.   I probably would have tried to somehow put it in there

 

         20    with an arrow.

 

         21       Q.   Now, he did tell you, did he not, that he sawed off the

 

         22    shotgun that he illegally purchased on May 21st?

 

         23       A.   Yes.

 

         24       Q.   Where is that on the time line?

 

         25       A.   That is not on the time line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   The commission of a federal felony is not significant

 

          2    enough to be put on the time line, is that correct?

 

          3       A.   I think that it's a significant point, however, I think

 

          4    more significant are the murders, and they are on --

 

          5       Q.   The murders that you have in a little red circle, about

 

          6    the size of a red circle that says, Mark attempted suicide and

 

          7    goes to church, those are the events that you think are more

 

          8    significant?

 

          9       A.   The size of the circles have nothing to do with the

 

         10    significance.

 

         11       Q.   Now, you had plenty -- this life line is three rows long

 

         12    and you had plenty of opportunity to put, Mark is in the seventh

 

         13    grade at Randall Junior High School and circle it in green, but

 

         14    you don't have enough room to put in the fact that he sawed off

 

         15    the barrel of a shotgun and committed a federal felony, you

 

         16    don't have enough room for that?

 

         17       A.   I thought that in the synopses, that that was

 

         18    encompassed in the murders.

 

         19       Q.   You have an entry for 6-25-96 in which you indicate, the

 

         20    defendant turns himself in to the FBI.  Where is it on the time

 

         21    line do you have an entry that he stole a license plate in

 

         22    Knoxville, Tennessee?

 

         23       A.   This is not a detailed account of his life.  His life

 

         24    was detailed in the life history, and this is just a way of

 

         25    helping and organizing information for the jury, for us, so that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    we can have some kind of perspective on what was going on when.

 

          2       Q.   A detail such as, Mark is enrolled in Beverly Woods

 

          3    Elementary, Sonia begins working at State Farm Insurance,

 

          4    Charlotte are significant enough to put on this chart, but his

 

          5    stealing a license plate is not significant enough to do that?

 

          6       A.   That was all part of the murder and suicide and turning

 

          7    himself in to the FBI.

 

          8       Q.   Uh-huh.  The same with scraping an inspection sticker

 

          9    off of the car?

 

         10       A.   That's correct.

 

         11       Q.   No need to put that on the time line?

 

         12       A.   It all happened in the same event.

 

         13       Q.   Driving a stolen car from Charlotte to Roanoke to

 

         14    Knoxville, Tennessee to Charlotte again, committing the federal

 

         15    felony of interstate transportation of stolen property, that's

 

         16    not significant enough to put on the time line?

 

         17       A.   That is on the time line under the Donald Allen and

 

         18    Robin Williams.

 

         19       Q.   Show me where that is.

 

         20       A.   It is encompassed in the same event is what I'm saying.

 

         21       Q.   And it includes future events after Robin is killed and

 

         22    he drives to Tennessee and he drives back, that's all

 

         23    encompassed in that?

 

         24       A.   In my opinion.

 

         25       Q.   Where is it on the time line that the defendant called

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    his cousin Shondra Nero from Tennessee and was told that the FBI

 

          2    was at his mother's house, where is that?

 

          3       A.   It is not on there.

 

          4       Q.   Where is it that he hid the car behind the shopping

 

          5    center, having driven back to Charlotte with stolen license

 

          6    plates and scraped off the inspection sticker, not on there?

 

          7       A.   No.

 

          8       Q.   How about dumping critical evidence in the dumpster,

 

          9    including the shotgun and other evidence, is that on the time

 

         10    line?

 

         11       A.   I did not diagram the events of the murder and directly

 

         12    before and directly afterwards.  I did indicate the loss of

 

         13    these two lives on this life line.

 

         14       Q.   In that one circle on this three-row life line?

 

         15       A.   Right.

 

         16            MR. CONRAD:  That's all I have, Your Honor.

 

         17            THE COURT:  Redirect?

 

         18                          REDIRECT EXAMINATION

 

         19            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         20       Q.   Just one question, Ms. Maxwell, just to sum this up.

 

         21    Your purpose in preparing this life line for lawyers and the

 

         22    experts and this jury was simply, or was it, to illustrate the

 

         23    life of Mark Barnette and was not prepared for the purpose of

 

         24    putting every single item of his life in that one document, was

 

         25    it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   I could not do that.

 

          2       Q.   You had those itemized events in your life history which

 

          3    was written, is that correct?

 

          4       A.   That's correct, it was 32 pages.

 

          5            MR. WILLIAMS:  No further questions.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  Just one, Your Honor.

 

          7                           RECROSS-EXAMINATION

 

          8            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

          9       Q.   Your purpose of doing this was to present the picture of

 

         10    the defendant's life that you wanted the jury to see and the

 

         11    defense attorneys to see, correct?

 

         12       A.   I illustrated it to the best of my ability.

 

         13            MR. CONRAD:  That's all I have.

 

         14            MR. WILLIAMS:  No further questions.

 

         15            THE COURT:  Thank you, ma'am.  Is your next witness long

 

         16    or short?

 

         17            MR. WILLIAMS:  The next witness is a little lengthy, and

 

         18    going to be our last live witness.

 

         19            THE COURT:  In that case, we will go ahead and take the

 

         20    morning recess a little early because we don't want to get right

 

         21    in the middle of the next witness.  Do not discuss the case

 

         22    among yourselves.

 

         23            Now, one thing I forgot to ask you again this morning,

 

         24    have any of you seen -- you can step down, Ms. Maxwell.

 

         25            THE WITNESS:  Okay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Have any of you seen, heard or read anything

 

          2    overnight or talked to anybody about this case overnight in any

 

          3    way.

 

          4            (Jurors shake heads.)

 

          5            THE COURT:  I take it you have not.  Thank you so much.

 

          6    Do not discuss the case among yourselves while you are out,

 

          7    please.

 

          8            (The jury left the courtroom.)

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  May I move this, Your Honor?

 

         10            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.  Recess until 10:40.

 

         11                 (Brief recess.)

 

         12            THE COURT:  Did somebody want to talk about something?

 

         13            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, may I be heard on a couple of

 

         14    matters before the next witness takes the stand?

 

         15            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

         16            MR. CONRAD:  The first matter I would like to be heard

 

         17    on is I think the Court is about ready to hear expert testimony,

 

         18    and we intend to present expert testimony as well.  And I should

 

         19    have done this yesterday and I omitted to do it, but I would ask

 

         20    the Court the give an instruction to the jury with respect to

 

         21    expert testimony.  You have done that before in the guilt phase

 

         22    of a trial, and I filed a -- I just now have filed a request to

 

         23    instruct the jury as to what an expert -- what weight the jury

 

         24    may give to expert testimony.  It's exactly the same instruction

 

         25    you gave during the guilt phase of the trial, and I would ask

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the Court to assist the jury by giving that instruction.

 

          2            THE COURT:  All right, let me see what you've got here.

 

          3            MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, we would object, Your Honor, simply

 

          4    as to the instruction being given at this time.  Certainly at

 

          5    the appropriate time during jury instructions, that would be

 

          6    appropriate, but to do it now, it would emphasize this

 

          7    particular witness.  It would put an emphasis on this particular

 

          8    witness, and I think it would be inappropriate.  It was not done

 

          9    on other witnesses, and I just ask that you give that

 

         10    instruction at the end of the case.

 

         11            THE COURT:  Well, let me see what it says.  Is it the

 

         12    usual routine instruction?

 

         13            MR. CONRAD:  Yes, sir.  It's the instruction you gave

 

         14    during the guilt phase of the trial.

 

         15            THE COURT:  Who is this witness?

 

         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  It's Dr. Mark Cunningham, Your Honor.

 

         17            MR. CONRAD:  And it's not directed at him, Your Honor.

 

         18    I should have asked you to do it yesterday when the other two

 

         19    experts testified and I just forgot about it.  Dr. Cunningham is

 

         20    going to testify and we're going to have an expert testifying in

 

         21    rebuttal, and I think it would help the jury to be reminded of

 

         22    the purpose of expert testimony in this case.

 

         23            THE COURT:  Why is it necessary, Mr. Conrad?  I mean,

 

         24    I'm going to give the same thing, they've heard it before.  I

 

         25    just don't see why it's necessary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            MR. CONRAD:  I think they were instructed in the guilt

 

          2    phase, but they haven't been instructed on that point in the --

 

          3            THE COURT:  Well, I will give them an instruction at the

 

          4    end of the case, but I really don't think it's necessary to do

 

          5    that now.  I don't know why the defendant is objecting, I don't

 

          6    see what difference it makes, but, I mean --

 

          7            MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, I think it just -- I would rather,

 

          8    Your Honor, do it at the appropriate time.

 

          9            THE COURT:  All right, sir, I will sustain the

 

         10    objection.

 

         11            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, I have a second motion in

 

         12    limine concerning the testimony of Dr. Cunningham if I could be

 

         13    heard on that.

 

         14            THE COURT:  All right, sir, let me see what this is.

 

         15            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, I have reviewed a transcript of

 

         16    Mr. Cunningham's testimony in the case United States v. Hardy,

 

         17    et al., 94381, Eastern District of Louisiana, April 30th, 1996.

 

         18    In that case, and I have got a transcript attached to the back

 

         19    of my motion, at the bottom of the transcript page, the

 

         20    defendant, this expert witness testified, clearly he is

 

         21    personally responsible, he will spend the rest of his life in

 

         22    federal prison, that is a just sentence.  Your Honor, this

 

         23    witness has no business testifying to such a conclusion.

 

         24            THE COURT:  Is he in the courtroom, is he here?

 

         25            AGENT MODZELEWSKI:  Yes, sir, I think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Dr. Cunningham, you do not give that

 

          2    statement, do you understand that?

 

          3            UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yes, sir.

 

          4            MR. CONRAD:  Thank you, Your Honor.

 

          5            THE COURT:  The statement was, clearly he is personally

 

          6    responsible, he will spend the rest of his life in federal

 

          7    prison, this is a just sentence.  That's not for you to decide

 

          8    and not for me decide, do you understand that?

 

          9            UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yes, sir.

 

         10            THE COURT:  All right, thank you.

 

         11            MR. CONRAD:  Thank you, Your Honor.  The second part of

 

         12    that motion deals with what I anticipate this witness to testify

 

         13    to.  I've reviewed prior transcripts, and he spends a great deal

 

         14    of time talking about a high security prison facility in

 

         15    Colorado Springs, near Colorado Springs, Colorado called ADX.

 

         16    In the course of that testimony, he shows a number of

 

         17    photographs of a prison cell at this facility, and the

 

         18    photographs are of such things as anchored toilets and other

 

         19    security measures at that institution.

 

         20            This witness is not a Bureau of Prisons official, has

 

         21    never worked within a penal institution, does not have firsthand

 

         22    knowledge of classification or designation procedures, and that

 

         23    type of testimony does not fall within the purview of a forensic

 

         24    psychologist.  And Your Honor, the point of my motion is unless

 

         25    the defendants can show that, in fact, this defendant would be

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    sentenced and sent to the prison facility in Colorado Springs,

 

          2    Colorado, then that testimony confuses the jury, it misleads

 

          3    them, and that confusion and misleading outweighs any probative

 

          4    force of the testimony.

 

          5            I would ask the Court to prohibit this defendant from

 

          6    talking about the ADX facility at all unless the defense can

 

          7    show that this defendant is going to be sent there, and I don't

 

          8    believe they can show that.

 

          9            THE COURT:  All right, sir.

 

         10            MR. WILLIAMS:  If Your Honor please, I have for Your

 

         11    Honor a book which is marked Defendant's Exhibit 59 which shows

 

         12    the illustrations that are going to be used by Dr. Cunningham in

 

         13    his presentation to the jury.  I have already provided those and

 

         14    additional overheads to the government.

 

         15            The reference the government makes is part of

 

         16    Dr. Cunningham's presentation as an expert in risk assessment

 

         17    where he's testified on six or seven, at least six or seven

 

         18    occasions in Federal Court qualifying as an expert in forensic

 

         19    psychology in the evaluation of risk assessment.  And in that

 

         20    presentation, there are references with regard to the

 

         21    available -- the availability of different types of maximum

 

         22    security in the federal prison system, and it's clearly relevant

 

         23    to the issue of future dangerousness that the government has

 

         24    alleged in its notice alleging that this man, our client, will

 

         25    be a future danger and the only position and situation that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    could be created for him where he is sentenced to life, that

 

          2    would be in federal prison.  In other words, the jury has a

 

          3    right to know that in federal prison, if he were given a

 

          4    sentence of life without the possibility of release, that there

 

          5    are different types of custodial and security type prisons

 

          6    anywhere from a U.S. minimum security prison to an ADX Florence

 

          7    control unit maximum security units, one of which is the

 

          8    administrative maximum in Florence, Colorado which he -- which

 

          9    is in this book.  I will be glad to tender it to the Court so

 

         10    you can look at this overhead.

 

         11            THE COURT:  That's all right, I've got it.

 

         12            MR. LAUGHRUN:  And would testify that he has been in

 

         13    that prison.  I believe he's been in that particular prison.

 

         14            UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yes, I have.

 

         15            MR. WILLIAMS:  That he has viewed these particular

 

         16    cells, he has viewed this particular prison and has firsthand

 

         17    knowledge of what the security measures are in that particular

 

         18    maximum security prison.  It's an offering of, ladies and

 

         19    gentlemen of the jury, here is an inmate that's going into the

 

         20    prison system that has within the federal prison system

 

         21    available different types of security, and this is one of the

 

         22    maximum types of security that would be available to him.

 

         23            Now, or available, that's up to the federal prison

 

         24    system, but I think the jury clearly has the right to know what

 

         25    they can expect, what is there in the federal prison system when

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the government has alleged and has the burden to prove beyond a

 

          2    reasonable doubt that he is going to be a danger in the future

 

          3    in the prison system of the federal system, and I think that's

 

          4    clearly relevant, particularly since he has firsthand knowledge

 

          5    of it.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  Judge, he has knowledge of that prison

 

          7    facility, he does not have knowledge of the classification and

 

          8    designation procedures.  In order for that testimony to be

 

          9    relevant at all, they have to show that this defendant would be

 

         10    sent to that prison facility.  Without being able to show that,

 

         11    the information is prejudicial, it's confusing and it's

 

         12    misleading, and they shouldn't be entitled go into it.

 

         13            MR. WILLIAMS:  You see, the problem, Your Honor, is that

 

         14    the government doesn't want this jury to know, I respectfully

 

         15    argue, that there are maximum security units within the federal

 

         16    prison system.  If the Federal Bureau of Prisons decides that

 

         17    this man is a maximum risk, is something in the system available

 

         18    for a security measure to protect society and to protect others

 

         19    and put him in that position.  Now, that's something that this

 

         20    jury ought to have the available information to make a decision

 

         21    on life or death in this particular case.  Otherwise, the

 

         22    government is attempting to hide from them these available

 

         23    maximum security measures.

 

         24            THE COURT:  I disagree with you.  I think that the --

 

         25            MR. LAUGHRUN:  May I add something briefly?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

          2            MR. LAUGHRUN:  There is also a perception by the public

 

          3    of federal prisons that they are just like Seymore Johnson,

 

          4    they're just like Maxwell Air Force Base, that they go down and

 

          5    they play tennis, you know, that they sit out in the sun, go

 

          6    boating.  That's the perception some people have of federal

 

          7    facilities.  Now, if this defendant is sentenced to life, three

 

          8    life terms plus 400 years, he is not going to a club fed, he is

 

          9    going to go to a level one or an administrative unit.  That's a

 

         10    fact of life.  And sure, it's up to BOP to designate him, and

 

         11    the government is free to cross-examine Dr. Cunningham about

 

         12    that.  Sure, the designation is up to BOP.  We have a right to

 

         13    present that, that he is not going to a club fed down in

 

         14    Montgomery, Alabama or Seymore Johnson Air Force Base or

 

         15    whatever.

 

         16            MR. CONRAD:  Judge, my point is they could have brought

 

         17    that kind of witness, they could have brought a Bureau of Prison

 

         18    official here to talk to the jury.  They couldn't be able to

 

         19    bring a forensic psychologist from Abilene, Texas to talk about

 

         20    it just because he went and --

 

         21            THE COURT:  Well, even if you brought a Bureau of Prison

 

         22    official, he couldn't say where this man is going to be

 

         23    imprisoned and it's really irrelevant.  The jury will be

 

         24    instructed that the defendant will be sentenced to life, if he

 

         25    is sentenced to life, that he will never be released, and that's

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the only thing they need to know.  We are not going to get into

 

          2    the different prisons, so I'll sustain -- I mean, I'll grant the

 

          3    motion in limine.  It's prejudicial, unnecessary, irrelevant,

 

          4    and I'm just not going to instruct them on that or let him

 

          5    testify as to that.

 

          6            MR. WILLIAMS:  May I have a moment, Your Honor, to

 

          7    adjust this exhibit in accordance with Your Honor's instruction?

 

          8            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  Your Honor, we will not ask

 

         10    Dr. Cunningham about the administrative maximum prison unit in

 

         11    Florence, Colorado or show any photographs of any cells.  But

 

         12    there is an overhead that deals with custody options dated June

 

         13    1997, and we would ask that we be permitted, and I will be glad

 

         14    to show Your Honor what it looks like if I may approach the

 

         15    bench.

 

         16            THE COURT:  All right.

 

         17            (Pause.)

 

         18            THE COURT:  Okay, custody options, minimum security,

 

         19    what do you want me to do?

 

         20            MR. WILLIAMS:  We just want to be able to tell them what

 

         21    the possible different, with regard to risk assessment, the

 

         22    different types of security prisons that are available, not

 

         23    saying which one he is going to go to.

 

         24            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, my objection to that is this

 

         25    guy is a forensic psychologist who has no specialty in that area

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    whatsoever.  The defense could have subpoenaed any Bureau of

 

          2    Prison official to come in here and talk about those kind of

 

          3    custody options.

 

          4            MR. WILLIAMS:  Judge, in his expert area of risk

 

          5    assessment, he's written a paper on this.  It's been reviewed by

 

          6    his peers.  He is extremely well regarded in his profession in

 

          7    the area of risk assessment.  Part of his expertise in risk

 

          8    assessment involves assessing the risk, and one way to assess

 

          9    the risk, let this jury know what is going to be going on in the

 

         10    real word with this man when he goes in the prison system, is to

 

         11    tell the jury what is available.  We are just not saying where

 

         12    he is going to go, but saying, this is what is available in the

 

         13    Federal Bureau of Prisons.  Dr. Cunningham is well aware through

 

         14    his expertise about those options.  It's part of his study.  I

 

         15    mean, he has reviewed literature after literature after

 

         16    literature.  He has reviewed study after study after study on

 

         17    risk assessment.  This is all part of his expertise, Your Honor,

 

         18    it's part of the risk assessment.

 

         19            MR. CONRAD:  Judge, as a forensic psychologist, he can

 

         20    talk about whether this particular defendant, based upon what

 

         21    he's studied and what research he's looked at, whether he is a

 

         22    future danger, but he has no expertise in the Bureau of Prisons

 

         23    classification procedures, designation procedures, and he

 

         24    shouldn't be allowed to extrapolate from his testimony about the

 

         25    future dangerousness of this defendant to the classification

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    procedures and the custody options in the Bureau of Prisons.

 

          2            MR. WILLIAMS:  He is not stating his opinion, Your

 

          3    Honor, he is stating a fact.  This is fact.  These are what the

 

          4    Federal Bureau of Prisons has available for people who go into

 

          5    the system.  It's not an opinion.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  He is not qualified to do that.

 

          7            MR. WILLIAMS:  Why is he not qualified as part of his

 

          8    risk assessment expertise to tell them what is, in fact, true

 

          9    based on his own personal knowledge and expertise?

 

         10            MR. CONRAD:  Mr. Williams and I could --

 

         11            THE COURT:  Wait a minute, are you through?

 

         12            MR. WILLIAMS:  I mean, that's -- to simply have an

 

         13    expert come in here and be able to talk about risk assessment

 

         14    and then be shut off and not be able to tell the jury and hide

 

         15    from the jury, well, now I'm telling you about risk assessment,

 

         16    I'm an expert in it, but I don't want to tell you what is

 

         17    available there, we don't want to talk about that.  They need to

 

         18    know that, they have a right to know.  That's part of the

 

         19    sentencing decision and part of the knowledge that they have to

 

         20    know.  Why?  Because the government has alleged he is a future

 

         21    danger.  We have a right to present evidence, if Your Honor

 

         22    please, to rebut that through an expert who has personal

 

         23    knowledge of those facts.

 

         24            MR. CONRAD:  He is not an expert.  I mean, Mr. Williams

 

         25    and I could read research and read a book on Bureau of Prisons

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    and find out what the custody options are, doesn't make us an

 

          2    expert.  He is a forensic psychologist.

 

          3            MR. WILLIAMS:  Doesn't need to be an expert.

 

          4            MR. CONRAD:  Well --

 

          5            MR. WILLIAMS:  To state a fact.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  He has to be an expert to read the

 

          7    literature and testify to that hearsay.  He has to be an expert

 

          8    to do that.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  Your Honor --

 

         10            MR. CONRAD:  Mr. Williams and --

 

         11            THE COURT:  Wait just a minute.

 

         12            MR. WILLIAMS:  I'm sorry, I apologize.

 

         13            MR. CONRAD:  As a lawyer, I could read a book on Bureau

 

         14    of Prisons, but I could not get up there on the stand and say,

 

         15    as a result of my reading this book, here are the options.  I'm

 

         16    not qualified to do it and neither is this forensic

 

         17    psychologist.

 

         18            MR. WILLIAMS:  Your Honor, one last thing, Rule 702 or

 

         19    703 I believe it is of the Federal Rules of Evidence provide

 

         20    clearly that an expert can base part of his opinion, his opinion

 

         21    is going to be in risk assessment, says that the facts or data

 

         22    in the particular case upon which an expert bases an opinion or

 

         23    inference may be those perceived by or made known to the expert

 

         24    at or before the hearing.  And if it's something that he's read

 

         25    and had knowledge of, it comes in under 703.  703 also says if a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    type reasonably relied upon by experts in the particular field

 

          2    in forming opinions, which would be on risk assessment, or

 

          3    inferences upon the subject, the facts or data need not be

 

          4    admissible in evidence.  So that's something that he is relying

 

          5    on as an expert.  Clearly it should come in under 703.

 

          6            THE COURT:  Mr. Conrad, I think you could stipulate

 

          7    these are available, couldn't you?

 

          8            MR. CONRAD:  I could, I just don't want this man

 

          9    pretending to be an expert on that in front of the jury.

 

         10            MR. WILLIAMS:  He is not pretending, Your Honor, he is

 

         11    an expert.

 

         12            MR. CONRAD:  I will stipulate that these options are

 

         13    available, I have no problem with that.  I don't want a witness

 

         14    who is not qualified to render an opinion to say that.  If you

 

         15    will instruct the jury that these options are available, I have

 

         16    no problem with that.

 

         17            THE COURT:  Well, he is not going to express an opinion

 

         18    on this, is he, Mr. Williams?

 

         19            MR. WILLIAMS:  It's a fact, he is not expressing any

 

         20    opinion.  I mean, he is going to be qualified, I think very

 

         21    clearly, as an expert in forensic psychology in the area of risk

 

         22    assessment with regard to, I have the exact language here, and

 

         23    part of that is going to be stating facts as a basis for his

 

         24    opinion.  He is net going to give any opinion about the place.

 

         25    We have already been prevented from showing them pictures of

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    this facility or any facility.  We are just stating, look,

 

          2    ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is what is available.

 

          3            Now, he is an expert in risk assessment.  I just

 

          4    respectfully say to Your Honor, clearly he ought to be able to

 

          5    say that.  I mean, there is nothing magic about that.

 

          6            MR. CONRAD:  If Your Honor would consider limiting his

 

          7    testimony solely to these options without any further opinion or

 

          8    elaboration, I would withdraw my objection to that.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  Well, I think that's what I understood

 

         10    the Court was instructing us.

 

         11            THE COURT:  All right, do that then and we'll go with

 

         12    that, no opinions, just state what is available.

 

         13            MR. WILLIAMS:  Yes, sir.

 

         14            THE COURT:  All right, ready to go?

 

         15            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Judge, can we offer for the record the

 

         16    Defendant's Exhibit I've marked as 59A, the ADX --

 

         17            THE COURT:  Oh, yeah, sure.

 

         18            MR. LAUGHRUN:  -- information and photographs photograph

 

         19    that Your Honor sustained an objection to?

 

         20            THE COURT:  Yes, sir, that's fine.

 

         21            MR. LAUGHRUN:  If I could approach the Clerk with that.

 

         22            THE COURT:  Are we ready for the jury?

 

         23            MR. WILLIAMS:  As I understand, I want to make sure I

 

         24    understand and my expert understands what you are saying, Your

 

         25    Honor, are you -- what he is -- what we are requesting is that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the jury be allowed to not only list what is available, but to

 

          2    tell the jury in a Super Max situation what it's like.  In other

 

          3    words, it involves a single cell bar door and steel door, window

 

          4    faces the inner recreation yard, 23 hour a day lockdown, meals

 

          5    in the cell, double escort, shackled behind the back, one to two

 

          6    15-minute phone calls monthly monitored, no contact visits,

 

          7    glass has one-hour hammer rating monitored, mail is x-rayed,

 

          8    opened and read.  He knows that of his own personal knowledge as

 

          9    part of his expertise in risk assessment.

 

         10            I think the jury has a right to know that this isn't a

 

         11    country club, this is what is what we are talking about here and

 

         12    they are having to decide what the sentence is.  So I think they

 

         13    have a clear right to know, what are we taking about, are we

 

         14    talking about a prison in the federal system where he is going

 

         15    to go play tennis and go out on passes and he's going to have a

 

         16    nice time, or are we talking about the realities of life as an

 

         17    available possibility in the system.

 

         18            MR. CONRAD:  Judge, they want a concession out of the

 

         19    government, they obtained that concession, now they're going

 

         20    back in the back door to talk about this facility that they have

 

         21    no qualifications to talk about.  They can't talk about a

 

         22    facility unless they can show that this man is going to be sent

 

         23    to that facility, and that's not through this witness.  They

 

         24    could have --

 

         25            THE COURT:  Well, we are not talking about any one

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    facility.

 

          2            MR. CONRAD:  Yes, they are, they're talking --

 

          3    everything Mr. Williams just told you comes from this ADX

 

          4    Florence facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and they

 

          5    haven't established that this man is going to be sent there.

 

          6            MR. WILLIAMS:  The concern I have, Your Honor, is this:

 

          7    Let's say the jury is back there deliberating on this moral

 

          8    judgment as to what to do in sentencing this man.  They go back

 

          9    there and start talking about, well, if we sentence him to life

 

         10    without the possibility of release, what kind of prison is he

 

         11    going to be sent to, what is there available there?  And I think

 

         12    that's part of their decision making right to know, and in that

 

         13    process it ought to be told.  They ought to have that

 

         14    information available that, you know, if they go back and one

 

         15    juror says, well, gosh what if he gets in the prison system and

 

         16    becomes violent and they've got to find a particular place for

 

         17    this man in the Federal Bureau system, does that place exist?

 

         18    We are simply saying to the jury that kind of place exists if

 

         19    that happens, and I think they have a right to know that in

 

         20    order to make an intelligent decision on a severe, severe moral

 

         21    judgment as this.

 

         22            THE COURT:  Well, I think you can say that's what is

 

         23    available in the prisons, but -- and Mr. Conrad, of course, can

 

         24    cross-examine him as to facts that he doesn't know where he is

 

         25    going to be sent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            MR. WILLIAMS:  He can do that, sure.

 

          2            THE COURT:  In fact, I could always tell them that

 

          3    myself, because I never have been able to direct anybody

 

          4    anywhere.

 

          5            MR. WILLIAMS:  All right, sir.

 

          6            THE COURT:  All right, ready to go.  Call the jury.

 

          7            (The jury returned to the courtroom.)

 

          8            THE COURT:  Members of the jury, the heat is supposed to

 

          9    be on, so hopefully you can take off your coats sometime during

 

         10    this session, but don't plan on it until you get the heat.

 

         11            All right, call your next witness.

 

         12            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you, Judge Potter, the defense

 

         13    calls Dr. Mark Cunningham.

 

         14                        MARK DOUGLAS CUNNINGHAM,

 

         15    being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

 

         16                           DIRECT EXAMINATION

 

         17            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         18       Q.   Will you please tell the ladies and gentlemen of the

 

         19    jury your name?

 

         20       A.   Mark Douglas Cunningham.

 

         21       Q.   Please try and remember that if you get too close to

 

         22    that microphone, you get a kickback.

 

         23       A.   Yes, sir.

 

         24       Q.   Where do you live?

 

         25       A.   I live in Abilene, Texas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   And how long have you lived in Abilene, Texas?

 

          2       A.   Since 1981.

 

          3       Q.   And what is your current status?

 

          4       A.   I'm a clinical and forensic psychologist in private

 

          5    practice.

 

          6       Q.   And what is a clinical psychologist?

 

          7       A.   A clinical psychologist is a psychologist who evaluates

 

          8    and treats emotional disorders through testing and

 

          9    psychotherapy, counseling, couples therapy.  A forensic

 

         10    psychologist is a psychologist who applies psychological

 

         11    research and techniques to legal issues, things like child

 

         12    custody determinations in a family law arena, or in a civil

 

         13    case, evaluating psychological injuries that someone might have

 

         14    sustained, in a criminal arena, evaluating questions of

 

         15    competency to stand trial or mental state at time of offense, or

 

         16    competency to weigh various rights or sentencing determination

 

         17    issues such as we are talking about today.

 

         18       Q.   Would you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what

 

         19    your education is, please, sir?

 

         20       A.   Sure.  I got my undergraduate degree, my Bachelor's

 

         21    Degree from Abilene Christian College, it's now Abilene

 

         22    Christian University, and that was in 1973.  My majors were in

 

         23    mass communication and also in psychology, and I graduated with

 

         24    high honors there.  I then attended a doctoral program in

 

         25    clinical psychology at Oklahoma State University, and that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    training was accredited by the American Psychological

 

          2    Association as a doctorate training program in clinical

 

          3    psychology, and received both my Master's and Ph.D. from

 

          4    Oklahoma State in clinical psychology.

 

          5            I then did a one-year clinical psychology internship at

 

          6    the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland while I

 

          7    was also an active duty naval officer, and then served as a

 

          8    staff psychologist at the Naval Submarine Medical Center in

 

          9    Groton, Connecticut and while there did a couple of years of

 

         10    postdoctoral study at Yale, and have participated very actively

 

         11    in continuing education since that time as well.

 

         12       Q.   Are you board certified?

 

         13       A.   Yes, I am.

 

         14       Q.   Would you tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what

 

         15    it means to be board certified?

 

         16       A.   Well, I am a diplomate of the American Board of Forensic

 

         17    Psychology, which is a subspecialty board of the American Board

 

         18    of Professional Psychology.  The steps that are involved in

 

         19    becoming board certified in forensic psychology within this

 

         20    organization require you to have at least five years of

 

         21    experience after your Ph.D.  You have to have a significant

 

         22    number of hours in specific forensic practice.  You make

 

         23    application and they do a licensing and ethics check and that

 

         24    sort of thing, and then if you are allowed to submit an

 

         25    application, you submit a work sample which is a scholarly work

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    product.

 

          2            You send a couple of examples of your work along with

 

          3    relevant research and case law to demonstrate your familiarity

 

          4    with these forensic issues and research that might be associated

 

          5    with them, and that work product is critically evaluated by

 

          6    other board certified forensic psychologists.  And if that's

 

          7    deemed acceptable, you are allowed to sit for an oral exam that

 

          8    is about a three-hour exam.  It's administered by three people,

 

          9    three board certified psychologists in this forensic area who

 

         10    examine you about both the areas that you focus on in a more

 

         11    specialized way as well as the whole breadth of the field of

 

         12    forensic psychology.

 

         13       Q.   What is the failure rate of that oral examination?

 

         14       A.   Historically the failure rate of the oral exam has been

 

         15    about 40 percent.

 

         16       Q.   Is that throughout the United States?

 

         17       A.   That's correct.

 

         18       Q.   How many board certified forensic psychologists are

 

         19    there in the United States?

 

         20       A.   Less than 200.

 

         21       Q.   Are you one of them?

 

         22       A.   Yes, I am.

 

         23       Q.   Will you tell the jury about your past experience

 

         24    professionally, that is, with regard to academic appointments

 

         25    and clinical experience?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   Yes, I will.  I was teaching assistant during my

 

          2    graduate training at Oklahoma State and instructed classes in

 

          3    introductory psychology, and was also a teaching assistant and

 

          4    coordinated the lab of an individual intelligence testing class

 

          5    that was taught at the graduate level.  There was a professor

 

          6    who taught the class.  I handled the lab part of that under his

 

          7    direction.

 

          8            My first professional appointment was as a staff

 

          9    clinical psychologist at the Naval Submarine Medical Center

 

         10    where I was stationed for about three and a half years in

 

         11    Groton, New London, Connecticut.  I left the Navy in 1981 and

 

         12    returned to Abilene and for a couple of years was a full-time

 

         13    assistant professor of psychology at Hardin Simmons University

 

         14    and started a part-time practice during those same years.  In

 

         15    1983, I resigned that academic position and was just in

 

         16    full-time private practice and have been in full-time practice

 

         17    since 1983.

 

         18       Q.   Now, what professional publications do you have,

 

         19    Dr. Cunningham?

 

         20       A.   I have three publications that have been accepted or

 

         21    have been published and peer reviewed.

 

         22       Q.   What does peer reviewed mean?

 

         23       A.   Well, peer reviewed means that -- it's a scientific

 

         24    journal, and when you send a research study or a paper into it,

 

         25    then they send that paper out to review with people who are

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    experts in that area.  And they evaluate whether or not your

 

          2    methodology is sound and whether this is deemed of sufficient

 

          3    scholarly significance and has been appropriately done to be, in

 

          4    fact, published as a paper in a scientific journal.

 

          5            The first paper that I had published in that way was my

 

          6    dissertation that had to do with the area of learning

 

          7    disabilities.  More recently, I have two papers that are in

 

          8    press with the Journal of Behavioral Science and the Law, which

 

          9    is one of the primary forensic psychology journals.

 

         10       Q.   Have any of those publications dealt with violence risk

 

         11    assessments at capital sentencing?

 

         12       A.   Yes, they have.  The title of one of these papers that's

 

         13    currently in press, in press means it's been accepted and

 

         14    approved and it is in line for one of the publications that are

 

         15    coming up across the coming months, the paper that deals most

 

         16    specifically with risk assessments is entitled, Integrating Base

 

         17    Rate Data in Risk Assessments at Capital Sentencing, in other

 

         18    words, applying actuarial, statistical techniques to evaluations

 

         19    of violence risk or future dangerousness in capital sentencing

 

         20    proceedings.  And as I said, that paper is currently in press.

 

         21       Q.   All right.

 

         22       A.   There is a second paper that involves antisocial

 

         23    personality disorder and psychopathy and the diagnostic dilemma

 

         24    that can be present in a sentencing determination of trying to

 

         25    categorize patterns of antisocial behavior.  And so that's a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    second paper that's also in press with Behavioral Sciences and

 

          2    the Law.

 

          3       Q.   Does that second paper, does that deal with forensic

 

          4    psychology?

 

          5       A.   Yes, it does, in a sentencing determination issue.  I

 

          6    would also add that both of these papers are co-authored with a

 

          7    colleague of mine, Dr. Thomas J. Reedy, who is the second author

 

          8    of each of those papers.

 

          9       Q.   And what professional affiliations do you have?

 

         10       A.   I am a member of the American Psychological Association,

 

         11    I am a fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Psychology

 

         12    which is the scholarly organization of the diplomates in

 

         13    forensic psychology with the American Board of Professional

 

         14    Psychology.  I'm a member of the Texas Psychological

 

         15    Association, Abilene Psychological Association.

 

         16       Q.   Does the State of Texas require continuing education

 

         17    courses in your area of expertise?

 

         18       A.   It requires continuing education as a psychologist to

 

         19    renew your license each year.

 

         20       Q.   And how much is required?

 

         21       A.   As I recall, 12 hours a year of continuing education are

 

         22    required.

 

         23       Q.   How much have you had in the last two years?

 

         24       A.   About 190 hours.

 

         25       Q.   What is your forensic experience?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   I began -- my initial exposure to forensic psychology

 

          2    was in discussions during my graduate training, but I didn't

 

          3    actually do any work at that time.  There were additional

 

          4    lectures and discussions about this across my internship with

 

          5    the Navy.  My initial direct exposure was as a psychologist with

 

          6    the Navy.  As I would evaluate individuals who were pending

 

          7    captain's mast, which is judicial proceedings, or nonjudicial

 

          8    proceedings, just below a court-martial, as well as evaluating

 

          9    individuals who were facing court-martial.  That was a small

 

         10    part of the work that I did at that time, but that was with some

 

         11    regularity.

 

         12            In my practice, in my private practice in Abilene,

 

         13    across the 1980's I gradually did more and more forensic work,

 

         14    initially primarily in the family law area in evaluations of

 

         15    child custody, but increasingly involving criminal cases.  And

 

         16    at this point, have a general practice in forensic psychology

 

         17    with a good portion of that still involving family law, but a

 

         18    very large portion of it involving criminal related

 

         19    evaluations.  Most often, appointments by the Court to evaluate

 

         20    competency to stand trial or mental state at time of offense as

 

         21    a neutral examiner on behalf of the Court.

 

         22       Q.   Have you ever done an evaluation that you have been

 

         23    asked to do and not testified after you have done the

 

         24    evaluation?

 

         25       A.   Yes, I have.  That's happened number of times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Why is that?

 

          2       A.   Well, in some cases, I may do an evaluation and the case

 

          3    ends up settling in some fashion before there is ever a hearing

 

          4    where I might be called to testify.  In other cases, the

 

          5    evaluation that I have done is not helpful to the position of

 

          6    the attorney who has asked me to do the evaluation, and so he

 

          7    doesn't then call me to testify.

 

          8       Q.   Have you ever testified in capital cases?

 

          9       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         10       Q.   Have you always testified for the defense in a capital

 

         11    case?

 

         12       A.   Yes.

 

         13       Q.   If the state had -- has the state ever asked you to

 

         14    testify?

 

         15       A.   No, not in a capital case.  I have testified at the

 

         16    request of the state in other criminal matters but not in a

 

         17    capital case.

 

         18       Q.   Have you ever been asked to provide training in capital

 

         19    sentencing evaluations to other psychologists, forensic

 

         20    psychologists?

 

         21       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         22       Q.   And who has asked you to do that?

 

         23       A.   The American Academy of Forensic Psychology, which is

 

         24    again the scholarly organization of board certified forensic

 

         25    psychologists within the American Board of Professional

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    Psychology, has asked me to do that.  I have been invited to

 

          2    present a day-long workshop in Milwaukee this March under the

 

          3    auspices of the American Academy of Forensic Psychology on

 

          4    capital sentencing determination issues.

 

          5       Q.   Have you provided expert testimony regarding violence

 

          6    risk assessments in other federal capital cases?

 

          7       A.   Yes, I have.

 

          8       Q.   How many?

 

          9       A.   I have testified by my recollection in six cases that

 

         10    were actively at trial regarding risk assessment and I believe

 

         11    in one federal habeas case that involved issues of risk

 

         12    assessment.

 

         13       Q.   Have you additionally testified as an expert involving

 

         14    violence risk assessments in State Court?

 

         15       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         16       Q.   How many times have you done that?

 

         17       A.   By my recollection, there have been four state cases at

 

         18    active trial that I have testified in regarding risk assessment

 

         19    and one or two habeas cases in addition to that, I believe, at

 

         20    the state level.

 

         21       Q.   Please tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

 

         22    Dr. Cunningham, what is violence risk assessment?

 

         23       A.   Violence risk assessment is -- is estimating the

 

         24    likelihood that someone will behave in a serious violent

 

         25    fashion, in this case, estimating the likelihood that a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    particular individual, a defendant, or Mark Barnette, will

 

          2    behave in a serious violent fashion, in this instance, in

 

          3    federal prison, and applying both conceptual approaches --

 

          4    applying both the theory of the research as well as specific

 

          5    data, specific statistical data to try to arrive at as accurate

 

          6    an estimate as possible.

 

          7       Q.   Is that process a science?

 

          8       A.   Yes, it is.

 

          9       Q.   And what makes it a science?

 

         10       A.   It's a science in that risk assessment has a conceptual

 

         11    and research literature.  In other words, in the field of risk

 

         12    assessment, there are scholarly articles that are written about

 

         13    how this needs to be approached, that's the conceptual part of

 

         14    it, and then there is also research data that looks at, what's

 

         15    the outcome, what's the degree of violence that is in various

 

         16    populations and what factors seem to be associated with that.

 

         17    And so there is scholarly scientific research data that is

 

         18    associated with the subject, and that's a part of what makes it

 

         19    a science.

 

         20       Q.   Are you familiar with that literature, Dr. Cunningham?

 

         21       A.   Yes, I am, I study it intensively.

 

         22       Q.   And what is the relation of your own publication to this

 

         23    literature?

 

         24       A.   The paper that I mentioned regarding the integrating

 

         25    base rate data in risk assessments at capital sentencing is

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    specifically oriented to that question, and the paper summarizes

 

          2    the different conceptual approaches that have been taken to risk

 

          3    assessment, looks at various statistical studies that can be

 

          4    supplied to this question at capital sentencing, and is

 

          5    essentially a literature review and a synthesis of these studies

 

          6    and this research into a single paper.

 

          7       Q.   What else makes this a science, if anything?

 

          8       A.   There is a publish methodology.  In other words, the

 

          9    scholarly literature, the publications talk about how you need

 

         10    to go about doing this and what factors you need to pay

 

         11    attention to, what steps are involved in it.

 

         12       Q.   What else is considered in showing that this is a

 

         13    science?

 

         14       A.   When we talk about risk assessment, we are not just

 

         15    talking about making estimates or evaluations of violence risk

 

         16    potential.  The area of risk assessment has a long established

 

         17    history.  That's what the insurance industry is, they are in the

 

         18    business of risk assessment, of trying to identify what's the

 

         19    likelihood that someone will have an automobile accident, or

 

         20    what their mortality is, by any number of things that as they

 

         21    try to evaluate how do you go about identifying the likelihood

 

         22    of negative outcomes.  And so that part of risk assessment has

 

         23    an established tradition in other industries.

 

         24       Q.   Is there anything else that makes it a science?

 

         25       A.   The methods of risk assessment can lend themselves to

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    being objective, that means that whoever looks at it comes up

 

          2    with a similar kind of approach, as well as reliable, in other

 

          3    words, that you would come up with similar answers each time you

 

          4    evaluate it.  That objectivity and reliability, I think, though,

 

          5    depends on how close you stay to the statistics.  The closer you

 

          6    stay to the statistics of it, the more likely it is to be

 

          7    objective and reliable.  The more it becomes intuitive or even

 

          8    clinical, if you will, the greater likelihood there is that you

 

          9    begin to stray and are less accurate and less reliable.

 

         10       Q.   Is there anything else that makes it a science?

 

         11       A.   There is progressive accuracy with additional research.

 

         12    In other words, as more studies are done, as more populations

 

         13    are studied and in more detail and outcomes are measured, then

 

         14    our data pool of statistics increases, then we know more, we

 

         15    have better information over time.  And so that progressive

 

         16    increase in accuracy, I think, is also part of what makes it a

 

         17    science.

 

         18       Q.   Dr. Cunningham, at the conclusion of a risk assessment,

 

         19    are you able to say whether a person is violent or going to be

 

         20    violent or not?

 

         21       A.   No, that would be a prediction and prediction is not

 

         22    science.  Prediction is a -- that's crystal balls.  I don't make

 

         23    predictions, and predictions are not well regarded within the

 

         24    risks assessment community.  What I'm attempting to do is

 

         25    evaluate the degree of risk, what is the probability that this

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    person will be violent.  So it's not an either/or, but it is a

 

          2    probability.

 

          3       Q.   So would it be fair to say that it's a probability

 

          4    estimate?

 

          5       A.   That's correct.

 

          6       Q.   Is this based on research data?

 

          7       A.   Yes, it is.  The probability estimate stems directly

 

          8    from actuarial follow-up, from research data with individuals

 

          9    who we identify as having various characteristics in common with

 

         10    the person who we are evaluating here.

 

         11       Q.   And what sort of data is relied on in doing a risk

 

         12    assessment?

 

         13       A.   The basic source of data are group statistics.  In other

 

         14    words, you measure the group as a whole.  It's -- the analogy

 

         15    that comes to mind is that as the automobile insurance company

 

         16    evaluates the likelihood that my 16-year-old will be involved in

 

         17    an accident.  The way they evaluate that is they look at their

 

         18    experience with thousands of 16-year-old's, and on the basis of

 

         19    that, they can identify a statistical likelihood that this

 

         20    16-year-old will have an accident.  And so we are going to start

 

         21    the same way.  We're going to begin with group statistics that

 

         22    look at large numbers of people, and the next step then is to

 

         23    individualize that to a particular person, to look at what

 

         24    factors there are about a specific individual that might cause

 

         25    us to modify that group statistic a little bit.  And I

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    emphasize "a little bit," because the farther that you go, the

 

          2    farther you depart from that statistical estimate, the greater

 

          3    the likelihood is that you are going to be inaccurate.  But we

 

          4    do try to individualize that risk estimate based on individual

 

          5    characteristics.

 

          6       Q.   When you say individualize it, you mean individualize it

 

          7    to a particular person?

 

          8       A.   That's right, to bring this down to Mark Barnette,

 

          9    looking at Mark Barnette in relation to these group statistics,

 

         10    where does he look like he is going to fall around that risk

 

         11    level.

 

         12       Q.   Dr. Cunningham, have you studied this group statistical

 

         13    data?

 

         14       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         15            MR. WILLIAMS:  Your Honor, at this time the defense

 

         16    would tender Dr. Cunningham as an expert in the field of

 

         17    forensic psychology involving violence risk assessment at

 

         18    capital sentencing.

 

         19            THE COURT:  All right, the Court will so accept him.

 

         20            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         21       Q.   Dr. Cunningham, were you asked to evaluate Mark Barnette

 

         22    for the purpose of violence risk assessment in this case?

 

         23       A.   Yes, I was.

 

         24       Q.   Tell the jury how you did that.

 

         25       A.   I began by reviewing extensive, and it's part of my

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    ongoing practice and habit of reviewing extensive statistical

 

          2    studies and research data in this area of risk assessment and

 

          3    looking at what data could be brought to bear on the question of

 

          4    Mark Barnette's likelihood of serious violence in prison.  I

 

          5    reviewed extensive records in the case that I can detail.

 

          6       Q.   All right.  And you have a list of those records that

 

          7    you have reviewed?

 

          8       A.   Yes, I do.

 

          9       Q.   How many pages is the list you have?

 

         10       A.   Four pages single spaced, and in many instances there is

 

         11    more than one document per line.

 

         12       Q.   And were those the records that were involved in the

 

         13    charges that were brought and now the convictions of Mark

 

         14    Barnette in the killings of Robin Williams and Donald Lee Allen?

 

         15       A.   That's correct.

 

         16       Q.   And without reading every single document, can you give

 

         17    the jury an overview of the areas that you reviewed, the kinds

 

         18    of documents that you reviewed?

 

         19       A.   Well, in addition to the offense reports in this case, I

 

         20    reviewed the offense reports and statements associated with his

 

         21    prior criminal arrest and convictions.  I reviewed school

 

         22    records, medical records, reports of past psychological

 

         23    evaluations, reports of the evaluations that were done at FCI

 

         24    Butner and the federal facility this fall, read the entire chart

 

         25    from the federal facility that was made available to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   In addition to records, did you review any interviews?

 

          2       A.   Yes, there were many other records that I looked at,

 

          3    including records of other experts, extensive interviews that

 

          4    Cindy Maxwell had obtained with a large number of third parties,

 

          5    family members, friends, employers, other individuals that she

 

          6    had collected data from.

 

          7       Q.   Did you review all of the reports not only from Butner

 

          8    but from Dr. Duncan, Dr. Grant?

 

          9       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         10       Q.   And any other medical reports?

 

         11       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         12       Q.   Did you directly evaluate Mark Barnette, the young man

 

         13    seated next to me?

 

         14       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         15       Q.   How many hours did you spent in interviewing him?

 

         16       A.   I spent just over 11 hours interviewing him.

 

         17       Q.   Did you have any interviews of people directly?

 

         18       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         19       Q.   And what kind of people did you interview directly?

 

         20       A.   Directly, I interviewed Jessie Cooper, also Sonia

 

         21    Barnette.  Then I spoke to Sonia Barnette for an extended period

 

         22    of time over the phone.  Then I conducted telephone interviews

 

         23    of Derrick Barnette, Mario Barnette, Sheila Cooper, Steve

 

         24    Austin, Brian Ard, Shonda Nero, Captain Alan Cobb who I spoke to

 

         25    briefly.  He was checking the disciplinary status at the jail

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    and so his was more of just to let me know that there had been

 

          2    no additional incidents or other incidents.  I also interviewed

 

          3    Tony Harrison, who is a Mecklenburg County jailer, police

 

          4    officer Elizabeth A. Joye and Dr. Sally Johnson.  All of those

 

          5    individuals I had direct telephone interviews with, and then

 

          6    there were other individuals who I attempted to contact but who

 

          7    I could not reach.

 

          8       Q.   Did you review all of the jail records since Mark

 

          9    Barnette's arrest?

 

         10       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         11       Q.   Did you go to the crime scene of the Donald Lee Allen

 

         12    killing?

 

         13       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         14       Q.   Did you review photos and videos?

 

         15       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         16       Q.   Did you review the findings of Dr. Salton and

 

         17    Dr. Halleck?

 

         18       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         19       Q.   Have you as part of your extensive review in this case,

 

         20    Dr. Cunningham, prepared some demonstrative visual aids to

 

         21    illustrate your testimony to this jury?

 

         22       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         23            MR. WILLIAMS:  If Your Honor please, may Dr. Cunningham

 

         24    at this time come down to the overhead projector?

 

         25            THE COURT:  All right, sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            MR. WILLIAMS:  I have a -- I think I have tendered to

 

          2    the Court an exhibit marked, whatever that exhibit number is,

 

          3    Your Honor, I believe it's 58.

 

          4            THE COURT:  Well, let's see.

 

          5            MR. WILLIAMS:  It's a black book, Your Honor.

 

          6            THE COURT:  The one I have here?

 

          7            MR. WILLIAMS:  Yes, sir.

 

          8            THE COURT:  You have 59 on that one.

 

          9            MR. WILLIAMS:  Pardon me?

 

         10            THE COURT:  59.

 

         11            MR. WILLIAMS:  All right, 59, Your Honor, and that is,

 

         12    Your Honor, a copy of the various overheads that Dr. Cunningham

 

         13    intends to use.  We put them into one exhibit.  We provided them

 

         14    to the government.

 

         15            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         16       Q.   Before, Dr. Cunningham, you proceed, I wanted to ask you

 

         17    one last question.

 

         18            Before you -- before you attempted to interview Mark

 

         19    Barnette in the case, were you aware of licensing procedures in

 

         20    the State of North Carolina for an out-of-state psychologist?

 

         21       A.   I made myself aware of it.

 

         22       Q.   And how did you do that?

 

         23       A.   I telephoned the State Board of Psychologists here in

 

         24    North Carolina to identify what their procedure was for

 

         25    psychologists coming in from out of state to perform forensic

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    work.  Each state has different regulations about that and

 

          2    different policies about how you go about getting permission to

 

          3    do psychological work in North Carolina when you are not -- if

 

          4    you are not licensed in North Carolina.  And so I inquired of

 

          5    the State Board and then followed their procedures.

 

          6            I submitted an application.  They had to verify my

 

          7    license with Texas to be sure that that license was in good

 

          8    standing, and, in fact, my evaluation in this case was delayed

 

          9    by several weeks.  I was initially scheduled to go down and talk

 

         10    to Mr. Barnette at FCI Butner and had to cancel that because the

 

         11    board couldn't get the paperwork from Texas in time to approve

 

         12    my getting a limited permit, a temporary license to come into

 

         13    North Carolina.

 

         14            THE COURT:  All right, 59 will be admitted.

 

         15            MR. WILLIAMS:  Thank you, Your Honor.

 

         16            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         17       Q.   Let me ask you also to identify Defendant's Exhibit

 

         18    Number 58, and ask you if you can identify that exhibit, please,

 

         19    sir?

 

         20       A.   Yes, I can.  This is the copy of the letter that was

 

         21    sent to me by Martha Story of the North Carolina Psychology

 

         22    Board confirming to me that I had been issued a temporary

 

         23    license in North Carolina effective January 1st, 1998.

 

         24       Q.   All right, sir, thank you very much.

 

         25            MR. WILLIAMS:  Offer Defendant's Exhibit Number 58, Your

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    Honor.

 

          2            THE COURT:  Without objection, let it be admitted.

 

          3            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

          4       Q.   Dr. Cunningham, how do the overhead -- you have an

 

          5    overhead projector there with a screen that you are about to

 

          6    use, how do the overheads help explain what you did?

 

          7       A.   The overheads will form an outline of the information

 

          8    that I want to present and also displays it in many cases

 

          9    graphically or identifies the primary points.  I have a pretty

 

         10    good amount of information to present and thought this was

 

         11    perhaps a way for me to keep it organized and also to make it

 

         12    more understandable and easier to relate to the jury.

 

         13       Q.   Do the overheads you are about to show the jury

 

         14    illustrate your testimony and illustrate the studies and the

 

         15    process that you went through before you reached an opinion with

 

         16    regard to violence risk assessment?

 

         17       A.   Yes, they do.

 

         18       Q.   If you will proceed, Doctor, and use your first overhead

 

         19    and explain to the jury from the beginning and moving on through

 

         20    what you did in this case with regard to violence risk

 

         21    assessment and how you individualized it to Mark Barnette.

 

         22       A.   When you undertake a risk assessment, there are four

 

         23    primary components.  The question is, will there be violence,

 

         24    and the four specific components of the risk assessment are what

 

         25    is the probability, of what form of violence, at what time

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    period, in what context.

 

          2            Now, the issue here is that individuals are not either

 

          3    dangerous or not in toto.  It's not that somebody is highly

 

          4    dangerous everywhere they go in every situation, but instead we

 

          5    are looking at a probability of a particular form or severity of

 

          6    violence across a given time period in a very specific context.

 

          7    So those are what we begin with in undertaking a risk

 

          8    assessment.

 

          9       Q.   That is with regard to an overhead on risk components.

 

         10    What are risk components?

 

         11       A.   These are the same components that we just talked about,

 

         12    the -- using our automobile insurance analogy, the issues are

 

         13    will this driver have an incident, what is the probability, of

 

         14    what type of accident, with what age driver, and what driving

 

         15    location.  They are the same questions that the automobile

 

         16    insurance company is asking, those are the same ones we're

 

         17    asking in terms of will there be violence.  The risk components

 

         18    are the same regardless of what field of risk assessment I am

 

         19    in.

 

         20       Q.   With regard to risk assessments, do you have certain

 

         21    techniques that you would use as an expert in forming your

 

         22    ultimate opinions?

 

         23       A.   Yes, I do.  There are four broad approaches to risk

 

         24    assessment, and these go from more scientific to less scientific

 

         25    as we go down the list.  The most scientific approach is the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    insurance company method, the actuarial method.  The next most

 

          2    reliable after that is what we call an anamnestic approach, and

 

          3    that's used with patterns of how the individual has behaved in

 

          4    the past to evaluate and to estimate their behavior in similar

 

          5    situations.

 

          6            Now, there are two keys to the anamnestic approach.  One

 

          7    is that there is a sufficient pattern of behavior in the past,

 

          8    and second, that the situation that we are talking about

 

          9    predicting for is very similar.  And so that -- those are

 

         10    essential elements, that there is a sufficient pattern and a

 

         11    similarity of situation in the anamnestic approach.

 

         12            Then there is intensive clinical evaluation.  This is

 

         13    what psychologists more routinely do.  As someone comes into my

 

         14    office and I am evaluating them on the basis of interview and

 

         15    the history that I take from them and my observations of them

 

         16    and their mental status, the way their thought processes and

 

         17    emotions are working, and on the basis of that I'm evaluating,

 

         18    is this somebody that needs to be in the hospital, what is the

 

         19    likelihood that this person may try to kill himself across the

 

         20    next week or two.  I'm looking at very short-term issues.  I may

 

         21    be looking at some long-term personality characteristics that

 

         22    may shape things over time.

 

         23            And then the last one, number four, is hypothetical

 

         24    inference.  That's where I have very limited data, and it's like

 

         25    star gazing.  It's like seeing the shapes of animals in the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    stars.  I'm going dot to dot, I'm filling in lots of space in

 

          2    between, and that, of course, is the least reliable approach in

 

          3    risk assessment.

 

          4       Q.   Now, is there models of violence risk assessment in the

 

          5    literature, Dr. Cunningham?

 

          6       A.   Yes, there are.  This is not an inclusive list, these

 

          7    are just some highlights, some different studies that I have

 

          8    identified to talk about models of risk assessment, and it

 

          9    begins with Monahan in 1981.  Monahan is considered in forensic

 

         10    psychology to be kind of the grandfather of risk assessment, and

 

         11    Monahan in 1981 described risk assessment as being best based

 

         12    first on actuarial methods on these group statistics and then

 

         13    individualizing that actuarial information with data about the

 

         14    persons personality style, their disposition, how they interact

 

         15    with other people, what kind of context they are in.

 

         16            Then Morris and Miller in 1985 picked up similar

 

         17    things.  Morris and Miller talk about actuarial approaches using

 

         18    how people like him will behave to estimate how he is going to

 

         19    behave.  Anamnestic approach is using how the individual has

 

         20    behaved in the past to estimate behavior in similar

 

         21    circumstances, and then clinical approach, using life experience

 

         22    for any knowledge.  Morris and Miller point out that this

 

         23    clinical approach adds very little to these first two, that our

 

         24    best risk assessments are based on these two, the clinical

 

         25    approach adds only a small amount.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            Hall in 1987 talks about risk assessment approaches

 

          2    varying depending on whether we are talking about risk

 

          3    assessment in the next several days, or if we are talking about

 

          4    a short-term in the next several months, or as in the case in a

 

          5    capital sentencing determination, the likelihood of long-range

 

          6    violence over time.  And Hall talks about long-range violence

 

          7    being best estimated by the base rate of violence, the

 

          8    statistics regarding violence in the group to which the

 

          9    individual belongs.

 

         10       Q.   What is a good way to put in layman's terms what base

 

         11    rate is?

 

         12       A.   I'm not sure this is in layman's terms, the statistical

 

         13    prevalence of a particular behavior over a set period of time.

 

         14    The base rate is like what is the likelihood that a man who is

 

         15    46 years old will have a heart attack in the United States, and

 

         16    there's a base rate for that, and maybe it's seven per thousand

 

         17    or something like that.  That's the base rate per year.  That's

 

         18    the statistical prevalence of a particular behavioral outcome

 

         19    over a set period of time.  This is the fundamental group

 

         20    statistic.  It's the single most important piece of information

 

         21    necessary to do an accurate risk assessment.  If I can't have

 

         22    any other data, give me the base rate.  If I can't have anything

 

         23    else, I would like to have the base rate.

 

         24       Q.   And you are going back to the --

 

         25       A.   I'm going back to this last model, which is Serin and

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    Amos in 1995, and Serin and Amos are talking about a multi-step

 

          2    process that you begin with a group base rate from relevant

 

          3    group statistics.  You then consider clinical information about

 

          4    how this person has been violent in the past and under what

 

          5    circumstances.  Then you do a very important thing here at

 

          6    number 3, you evaluate what risk management variables and what

 

          7    contentional factors might be modified to reduce the likelihood

 

          8    of risk.

 

          9            Now, number 3 is what the insurance industry has done

 

         10    and our government has done with a padded dash, padded steering

 

         11    wheel, seat belts, driver's air bags, side door beams.  Those

 

         12    are all steps that have been undertaken as risk management

 

         13    variables that work to reduce the likelihood of injury in an

 

         14    accident.  So that's another step in risk assessment is

 

         15    identifying what steps can be undertaken to reduce the

 

         16    likelihood.

 

         17            And so then you have a final revised estimate.  So we

 

         18    have a base rate, we modify that for clinical information, we

 

         19    look at what we can do to reduce the risk, and we have a final

 

         20    revised estimate of the violence potential.

 

         21       Q.   Are there certain steps that you go through,

 

         22    Dr. Cunningham, in doing this?

 

         23       A.   Yes, there are.  There are seven actuarial steps that

 

         24    can be undertaken.  We begin by identifying the general

 

         25    characteristics.  In our automobile insurance analogy, it was

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    unmarried male drivers between the ages of 16 and 25.  In this

 

          2    case, we would look at general characteristics about Mark

 

          3    Barnette, such as having been convicted of capital murder, and

 

          4    serving a term in prison.  We might identify him additionally as

 

          5    a long-term prisoner as opposed to a short-term prisoner.  We

 

          6    might evaluate him in terms of the likelihood of assault within

 

          7    the federal prison system.  We could look at the likelihood of

 

          8    staff assault or staff death in the prison system across the

 

          9    United States, and that way begin to gather statistical

 

         10    information, our base rate information about what is the

 

         11    likelihood that he is going to engage in serious violence.

 

         12            Now, within each one of those general characteristics we

 

         13    are then going to review the experience, that's where we look at

 

         14    the data to see, so what happens to these folks.  The insurance

 

         15    company is studying their outcomes with unmarried male drivers

 

         16    between 16 and 24.  We are going to track inmates across the

 

         17    general characteristics here as well, and then establish a base

 

         18    rate, which is an historic percentage.  That base rate can be

 

         19    adjusted for context in our driving analogy.  That's whether the

 

         20    person is driving in a major city perhaps or in a more rural

 

         21    area.  In our base rate estimates, obviously we are going to be

 

         22    paying a lot of attention that we are talking about the context

 

         23    of prison, not open, free society, but prison, a very specific

 

         24    context, and additionally, as there are different contexts of

 

         25    confinement available within the federal prison system.  That

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    may also affect the likelihood of risk of this person acting out

 

          2    in a serious violent fashion.

 

          3            We will adjust the base rate individual differences.  In

 

          4    our driving analogy, that's like you get some insurance

 

          5    deduction if you have taken behind the wheel or if you are an

 

          6    honor student.  You might have an increase in your premium if

 

          7    you dropped out of high school.  Those are modifications in the

 

          8    base rate that are made based on individual differences, and we

 

          9    will look at individual characteristics of Mark Barnette and how

 

         10    that will affect the base rate.

 

         11            Number 6, adjust the base rate for preventive measures

 

         12    that might be undertaken, we talked about that.  It could also

 

         13    be useful to compare the base rate to other base rates, to

 

         14    compare our 16-year-old drivers to 55-year-old drivers just as a

 

         15    way of having a point of reference.

 

         16       Q.   What does that overhead illustrate, Dr. Cunningham?

 

         17       A.   In the overheads that follow, I'm going to talk about

 

         18    five different groups of base rates that are relevant to the

 

         19    likelihood of violence in prison, that talk about follow-up with

 

         20    capital offenders, convicted capital murderers and other

 

         21    murderers in the general prison population.  We are going to

 

         22    talk about the frequency of assaults by inmates in federal

 

         23    prison.  We will look at base rates of homicide of inmates or

 

         24    staff in state and federal prison.  We will look at the rate of

 

         25    disciplinary infractions of short-term inmates, those are

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    inmates who are sentenced to less than five years, as compared

 

          2    to inmates sentenced to more than five years, and we'll look at

 

          3    that in terms of age and admission to prison and the seriousness

 

          4    of the infraction and fights and assaults and their frequency,

 

          5    and then also base rates associated with the effects of age.

 

          6            So as we evaluate the likelihood of violence for Mark

 

          7    Barnette in prison, that number is not a static one but instead

 

          8    is one that can be expected to change with the effects of aging,

 

          9    and we will look at base rates regarding that as well.

 

         10       Q.   What does that overhead illustrate, Doctor?

 

         11       A.   This is the first study that I want to talk about that

 

         12    is related to follow-up of capital murderers in prison and their

 

         13    behavior in prison, and let me provide some context for this as

 

         14    well.

 

         15            The next few studies that follow are going to look at

 

         16    the experience of capital murderers in state prison.  We are

 

         17    going to look at various states as well as across the nation, a

 

         18    sample of many states.  None of these studies are going to talk

 

         19    about outcomes of commuted capital offenders in federal prison.

 

         20    The only studies that I can find deal with a state prison

 

         21    setting.

 

         22       Q.   Have there been any studies in federal prison?

 

         23       A.   Not to my knowledge.  I find these to be relevant and I

 

         24    rely on these, because I believe that Mark Barnette's

 

         25    characteristics are essentially the same whether he is here in

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the Federal Courthouse being tried, or whether he is across town

 

          2    being tried in the State Courthouse for the same charge.

 

          3            Now, there is a different context that he is going into,

 

          4    he is going into the federal prison system as opposed to a state

 

          5    prison system.  My perception is that the federal system is a

 

          6    model prison system and has significant resources available to

 

          7    it, and that the context in the setting of federal prison is

 

          8    such that federal prison should not have a worse outcome in

 

          9    terms of the behavior of capital offenders as compared to the

 

         10    state prison system.  So this is a different context.  I think

 

         11    it's one that continues to be very relevant to our discussions.

 

         12       Q.   Is this a study that was done in 1989?

 

         13       A.   1989, yes, it is.  This is a study that's based on

 

         14    capital offenders in Texas.  We have a group of capital

 

         15    offenders who were initially sentenced to death and subsequently

 

         16    had their sentences commuted to a term on appeal.  Because of

 

         17    perhaps errors in the sentencing phase of trial, their sentences

 

         18    were commuted to a capital life term, and so they are moved from

 

         19    death row into the general prison population and then are

 

         20    followed for an average of about seven years in terms of their

 

         21    behavior across the time after their sentence has been commuted.

 

         22       Q.   What does this show, Dr. Cunningham?

 

         23       A.   We have 90 inmates who were released from death row in

 

         24    the general prison population.  There are 102 capital murderers

 

         25    who were initially sentenced to capital life, were not given the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    death penalty, who were also followed.  Then we have all of the

 

          2    inmates in the Texas state prison system, there were 38,000 of

 

          3    them in 1986, we are comparing them, and these are a group of

 

          4    about 1,700 individuals who are on a high security unit within

 

          5    the Texas Department of Corrections.

 

          6            Now, this is the -- the numbers that are reflected here

 

          7    in the graph are the average yearly number of serious violent

 

          8    rule violations per hundred inmates per year.  So our two

 

          9    capital groups averaged about two serious violent events per 100

 

         10    inmates per year.  The general prison population averages 11.66

 

         11    and the guys in the high security unit average 19.54, so that

 

         12    our capital offenders, rather than being disproportionately

 

         13    likely to behave violently in prison, are disproportionately

 

         14    less likely to behave that way.  They are about one-fifth as

 

         15    likely as the system wide and about an eighth or a ninth as

 

         16    likely as the guys in the Darrington unit.

 

         17            Within this same group of Texas inmates, there were a --

 

         18    there is a group of those that did constitute a significant

 

         19    management problem to the corrections personnel.  8 of the 90

 

         20    who were released from death row were identified as prison gang

 

         21    members.  At this point in time in the Texas prison system,

 

         22    there was a very significant problem with prison gangs, and they

 

         23    were identified as gang members and were confined indefinitely

 

         24    in administrative segregation.  That means that they are put in

 

         25    single cells where they remain 23 hours a day.  They are

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    shackled when they're taken out of the cells for their hour a

 

          2    day of exercise when they exercise alone.  They eat in their

 

          3    cells.  They don't have general population contact.  So their

 

          4    behavior was effectively constrained by putting them in

 

          5    lockdown.  And six of the control life sentence group were also

 

          6    identified as gang members and were confined indefinitely in

 

          7    administrative segregation.

 

          8            What we see here is that two-thirds of both groups had

 

          9    never been in solitary confinement, which is the punishment for

 

         10    more serious disciplinary infractions, and 90 percent of them

 

         11    end up being trustees.  That doesn't mean that they have a cushy

 

         12    life in prison, it means that they are engaged in providing

 

         13    services in the prison, they do work in the prison and

 

         14    contribute to their own upkeep and are not viewed as being such

 

         15    a risk that they have to be under constant, very close, tight

 

         16    supervision.  So for 90 percent of both groups, they were not a

 

         17    management problem in prison and were treated as trustees.

 

         18            Now, there is a very similar experience from another

 

         19    study that looked at 533 former death row inmates nationwide

 

         20    whose sentences were commuted in 1972 under a Supreme Court

 

         21    decision, Furman v. Georgia, and so everyone who was on death

 

         22    row at that time had their sentence commuted to a term of

 

         23    capital life.  And then their prison behavior after the

 

         24    commutation, after they are in general prison population off of

 

         25    death row, prison behavior is followed over an average of about

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    15 years.  And the outcomes, the base rates are very similar to

 

          2    the Texas study that we just looked at.  About 70 percent, 69.5

 

          3    percent of these inmates had no serious violent violations, none

 

          4    at all.  About 15 percent had one violation, seven and a half

 

          5    had two violations, and about seven and a half percent had three

 

          6    or more violations.  In fact, this group here was responsible

 

          7    for about half of all of the violence that occurred.

 

          8            So you have a very small group even within this group of

 

          9    capital murderers, a small group that accounts for the

 

         10    overwhelming majority of the violence.  This is significant.

 

         11    These individuals who have a single violation across a 15-year

 

         12    period of time in that if someone is violent prone in a really

 

         13    malignant sort of way, we would expect that they would have

 

         14    gotten in trouble more than once across a 15-year period of

 

         15    time.  So a single event across 15 years may well reflect a

 

         16    significant contribution from the situation that the context,

 

         17    the situation, the person is in may well have had something to

 

         18    do with these events.

 

         19       Q.   And that was a study in 1989?

 

         20       A.   This is again 1989, and it's looking at the follow-up of

 

         21    inmates beginning in 1972 over a 15-year period of time up to

 

         22    about 1987.

 

         23       Q.   All right.  Is this overhead a study done in 1996?

 

         24       A.   That's correct.  This is a study out of Missouri in 1996

 

         25    by Sorensen and Wrinkle, and this study looked at three groups

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    of inmates.  It looked at 93 guys on death row, 323 life without

 

          2    parole inmates, and 232 life with parole inmates, a total of 648

 

          3    inmates.  These groups did not differ in their assaultive rule

 

          4    violations.  It didn't make any difference whether the guy was

 

          5    on death row or life without parole or life with parole.  In

 

          6    Missouri, these groups are all housed in the same facilities, or

 

          7    at least these two, the death row guys and the life without

 

          8    parole are housed in the same facilities and are treated

 

          9    essentially the same, and their disciplinary rates did not

 

         10    differ in terms of problems.

 

         11            This pie chart looks at the cumulative prevalence across

 

         12    15 years.  That means as we add up all of the violence across

 

         13    the 15-year period of the follow up, up to 15 years, for the

 

         14    whole group, 78.2 percent had no assaults at all across 15

 

         15    years, 6 percent of them had minor assaults, 14 percent were

 

         16    more serious assaults, and of the 642, 1.2 committed another

 

         17    homicide across this period of time on an inmate.  So this again

 

         18    is quite consistent with the numbers that we saw out of the

 

         19    Texas study and also out of the Furman study that looked at

 

         20    inmates across the country.

 

         21            Let me point out in relation to this study, this study

 

         22    provided us a good deal of information about the nature of the

 

         23    inmates involved and what their past offenses had been and

 

         24    what -- the nature of their crime and that sort of thing, and

 

         25    that's broken out for us.  A -- as I review that data, a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    domestic -- this kind of homicide if it's there is of a very

 

          2    small percentage.  It's about 1 percent or something.  Most of

 

          3    them are murders that were done in the course of an armed

 

          4    robbery or in the course of a rape or that sort of thing.  So

 

          5    this situation, this offense is a little different.

 

          6       Q.   What offense?

 

          7       A.   Mark Barnette's offense, doesn't match entirely those

 

          8    offenses that were represented more significantly in this.

 

          9    Again, I think it's a reasonable assumption to view this capital

 

         10    offense as being still within that same capital murder group

 

         11    that lets these studies be applicable to it.  The other studies

 

         12    don't break out the particular type of capital murder as I

 

         13    recall.

 

         14            Then there is one other study that I'll just mention

 

         15    briefly.  This is looking at New Jersey capital offenders, a

 

         16    very small study on 55 inmates whose sentences were commuted

 

         17    between 1907 and 1960 and followed across the period of time

 

         18    that they were in prison and were serving life sentences.  There

 

         19    were no allegations of unmanageable behavior in this group at

 

         20    all.  Its a small study.  Unmanageable behavior as I recall was

 

         21    not defined, but at least it's an indication they were not

 

         22    regarded as being ongoing major disciplinary problems.  So

 

         23    that's -- those are the base rates that are associated with our

 

         24    capital offenders.

 

         25            The next couple of slides deal with the relationship of

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    the offense history to prison adjustment.  In other words, is

 

          2    there any connection between the fact that this person committed

 

          3    murder and how violent they are going to be in prison, or that

 

          4    they committed armed robbery and how violent, or other offenses.

 

          5    These are conclusions from a U.S. Justice -- summarize a U.S.

 

          6    Justice Department publication.  Past violence is not strongly

 

          7    or consistently associated with prison violence.  Violence in

 

          8    the community may be strongly associated with violence in the

 

          9    community.  Prison is a very different context.  And violence in

 

         10    the community is not strongly or consistently associated with

 

         11    violence in prison according to the Department of Justice

 

         12    studies they commissioned.

 

         13            Current offense, prior convictions and history are

 

         14    weakly associated with prison misconduct.  Severity of offense

 

         15    is not a good predictor of prison adjustment.  There are a

 

         16    couple of studies that we might look at that illustrate this.

 

         17    This is a very small study, I think there were only 30 inmates

 

         18    involved.  They were looking at factors associated with violence

 

         19    in the first six months of confinement in federal prison.  And

 

         20    what they identified is the individuals who were more likely to

 

         21    have violence in the first six months were younger inmates.  In

 

         22    this study, the oldest inmate, I think, was about age 30 and

 

         23    they went down to 18.  More prior arrests and convictions and

 

         24    not having resided in major cities, those were the things that

 

         25    seemed to identify the ones who had a somewhat greater

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    likelihood of violence.  The severity of the current offense did

 

          2    not predict inmate violence, contrary to what we might otherwise

 

          3    expect.

 

          4            This is a study out of the Bureau of Justice Statistics

 

          5    in 1989, and here we're looking at the average number of prison

 

          6    rule violations per inmate per year in terms of what their

 

          7    offense of conviction was.  It was back in 1986 that this data

 

          8    was collected.  So here is the offense of conviction and here

 

          9    are the average number of infractions for inmates, and notice

 

         10    that our inmates who were convicted of homicide or manslaughter,

 

         11    rather than having more incidents, disciplinary incidents of all

 

         12    sorts, not just violence but all disciplinary incidents, in

 

         13    fact, were on the lighter end of this with robbery inmates

 

         14    having the highest number, followed by the property offenders.

 

         15            The next set of base rates has to do with the frequency

 

         16    of assaults in federal prison, among the federal inmate

 

         17    population.  And this is based on a 1992 study out of U.S.

 

         18    Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons.  This depicts

 

         19    the frequency, this is the annual, each year, the annual

 

         20    percentage of assaults on staff, and this is just over 1

 

         21    percent.  About 1 percent of the inmates will assault a staff

 

         22    member in a given year, about one chance in 100.  Now, what this

 

         23    describes, though, is only one-fiftieth of those assaults are

 

         24    serious or major.  Serious or major means where the staff member

 

         25    got stitches, got a broken bone, had to be admitted to the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    hospital, got a concussion, only one-fiftieth of those, of that

 

          2    1 percent.  That's depicted here in this circle.  We have 98.84

 

          3    percent of the inmates who did not assault a staff member that

 

          4    year.  We have 1 percent of them that did, and that little line

 

          5    right there is the .02 percent where it was serious.  And this

 

          6    gives you some sense of the degree of risk that we are talking

 

          7    about.

 

          8            The next graph shows the frequency of inmate on inmate

 

          9    assaults, and about 1.1 percent, 1 in 100, assaulting another

 

         10    inmate, here the frequency of it being a serious or major

 

         11    assault was greater, about a fifth of those were serious or

 

         12    major, or about a fifth of a percent, .22 percent.  That looks

 

         13    like this when we graph it.  98.9 percent had no assaults.  1

 

         14    percent had an assault.  Of those assaults, a fifth of a percent

 

         15    were serious or major.

 

         16       Q.   What is the base rate there?

 

         17       A.   The base rate then on an annual basis, if we are talking

 

         18    about the base rate of inmate on staff assault is 98.8 percent

 

         19    that it's not going to happen with a given inmate this year.

 

         20    The likelihood that it will happen is 1.16 percent.  If we're

 

         21    talking about an assault on an inmate, the base rate is 98.9

 

         22    percent likelihood it's not going to happen in a given year,

 

         23    just over 1 percent likelihood that it will.

 

         24            Well, we might say, okay, what about in a high security

 

         25    facility?  I mean, granted, the assault rate is going to

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    be -- may be low in a white collar facility that's of a lower

 

          2    security doesn't have more seriously violent individuals

 

          3    committed to it.  What about in a high security facility?  And

 

          4    so this is the same graph that you saw a minute ago.  This

 

          5    represents our high security population.  This is based on

 

          6    Leavenworth, Lompoc and Lewisburg, just over 4,000 inmates.

 

          7    And, in fact, the frequency of assault on staff is greater in

 

          8    the high security facility.  Here it's 2.8 percent as supposed

 

          9    to 1.6 percent, so it is significantly greater than this.  Here

 

         10    it's depicted on our pie heart chart.  Again, 95.5 percent have

 

         11    no assaults.  About 2.8 percent have an assault on a staff

 

         12    member.  And our assaults on other inmates is somewhat greater

 

         13    as well, 1.7 percent as opposed to 1.1 percent, and that's what

 

         14    this looks like on the graph.  Now, here's the comparison of our

 

         15    two pie charts.  There is a greater degree of risk in high

 

         16    security prison in terms of our base rate and looking at it

 

         17    graphically.  But again, the overwhelming majority of inmates,

 

         18    this doesn't happen with.

 

         19            This looks at the base rate of inmate and staff homicide

 

         20    across the country in 1995.  In the federal system, this is

 

         21    inmate on inmate, one inmate killing another, in the U.S. Bureau

 

         22    of Prisons, there were seven homicides per 100,000 inmates.

 

         23    You've got 100,000 guys in prison, there were seven homicides.

 

         24    In state prison, there were 5.6 inmate on inmate homicides per

 

         25    100,000 inmates.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            Now, we have compared that, in the United States as a

 

          2    whole, there were 8.2 homicides per 100,000 in the population.

 

          3    In North Carolina, there were 9.4 per 100,000.  In

 

          4    charlotte-Mecklenburg, there are 16.4 per 100,000.  The base

 

          5    rate of homicide in prison is lower than it is on the street,

 

          6    which is what you would -- even though 47 percent of the

 

          7    individuals in state prison are serious violent felons.  You

 

          8    have a large concentration of serious violent felons, but your

 

          9    base rate of homicide is lower than it is on the street.  The

 

         10    reason for that is that prison works.  They are in situations

 

         11    where they are highly supervised and classified, and are either

 

         12    shakedowns and there are search for weapons and access to

 

         13    substances is reduced and many, many factors are present in

 

         14    terms of structure and supervision that are not present on the

 

         15    street, so your base rates are lower than the surrounding

 

         16    population.

 

         17            Inmate on staff homicide is exceedingly rare in prison,

 

         18    and in the federal system in 1995 there was one homicide with an

 

         19    inmate population of about 100,000.  In the country as a whole

 

         20    with a prison population of close to a million, there was also a

 

         21    single staff member who was killed.  In 1994, with a million

 

         22    inmates in prison nationally, there was not a single homicide of

 

         23    a guard either in state or federal prison.  So you are talking

 

         24    about an event that is extremely, extremely rare.

 

         25            There is a way of trying to translate the base rates

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    that we looked at in terms of assaults on staff.  The likelihood

 

          2    of an inmate on staff assault of any assault is about 1 percent

 

          3    a year.  That's about 1 inmate in 100.  It's about one assault

 

          4    about every 86 inmate years.  A major assault occurs about a

 

          5    fifth or a fiftieth of a percent of a year.  That's less than

 

          6    one inmate in 5,000 in any given year.  That's an assault, a

 

          7    serious assault on a staff member every 4,300 inmate years.  And

 

          8    actually, this statistic is incorrect.  Based on '94, '95, it's

 

          9    one staff homicide for every 200,000 inmate years.

 

         10            Inmate on inmate assault, about any assault about 1

 

         11    inmate in 100, one assault every 90 inmate years, a serious or

 

         12    major assault, about one inmate in 500 in any given year, or one

 

         13    assault every 454 inmate years.  One inmate homicide, about

 

         14    every 9,000 inmate years.

 

         15            Another way of looking at the likelihood of disciplinary

 

         16    infraction is based on whether the inmate is a short-term or

 

         17    long-term inmate.  This is a dissertation that was initially

 

         18    done by Flanagan in 1979 and it was published in a summary

 

         19    article in 1990.  And this is the line that depicts the level of

 

         20    disciplinary infractions of short-term inmates at different

 

         21    years and admission and how old they were when they were

 

         22    admitted, and this reflects the experience with long-term

 

         23    inmates.  That's inmates who have been sentenced to more than

 

         24    five years.  And notice that at each age, long-term inmates have

 

         25    a lower likelihood of disciplinary infractions than short-term

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    inmates do.  Flanagan talks about this in terms of long-term

 

          2    prisoners adopting kind of a long-term perspective.  This is

 

          3    where they are going to live and where they were going to be

 

          4    from now on and settling into that and viewing prison in a

 

          5    different sort of way, of trying to make an adjustment to that

 

          6    and not make their stay harder than it would otherwise be.

 

          7            Now, when we look at, so who are these long-term inmates

 

          8    that have this lower rate of disciplinary infractions, 47

 

          9    percent of them are guilty of homicide and 27 percent of them

 

         10    are guilty of robbery.  So these are inmates again who are

 

         11    significantly represented by a homicide population and yet have

 

         12    lower rates of disciplinary infractions over time.  We can ask,

 

         13    so what is the seriousness of these disciplinary infractions

 

         14    that occur?  And our long-term inmates do have a somewhat higher

 

         15    frequency of high seriousness incidents such as interfering with

 

         16    an employee or staff or assault or escape.  So notice that they

 

         17    are somewhat more likely.  The short-term inmates look like they

 

         18    are at about 18 percent, long-term is about 25 percent.  Of this

 

         19    group here, though, these more serious incidents, only 11.8

 

         20    percent involve a fight or assault.  Most of these serious

 

         21    incidents are not directly violent in nature.  So again, we are

 

         22    talking about a relatively infrequent phenomenon occurrence.

 

         23            One of the things that this study also depicts, notice

 

         24    that as the individual is older when he comes into the prison,

 

         25    that his likelihood of disciplinary infractions is also lower.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    This is one of the most well-established principles in

 

          2    criminality and forensic psychology, that age matters, and that

 

          3    the older someone is, the lower the incidence is of criminal

 

          4    behavior, the lower the incidence is of violent behavior, the

 

          5    lower the incidence is of murder, the lower the incidence is of

 

          6    disciplinary problems in prison.  Whatever area we want to look

 

          7    at, we see that trend.  And I'll just briefly go through these.

 

          8            This shows long-term inmates across the years of their

 

          9    confinement.  There is an initial rise in disciplinary

 

         10    infractions, and then after that it falls across the years of

 

         11    confinement.

 

         12            It's another study that looks at the average number of

 

         13    prison rule violations per inmate by age.  Here is where the guy

 

         14    is 17, 18 to 24 and falling off here to age 25.  Even at the

 

         15    peak age, we are talking about just over two and a half rule

 

         16    violations per year, falling off to .3 rule violations per year

 

         17    at age 45.

 

         18            This is another analysis of Flanagan's data that looks

 

         19    at the likelihood of infractions as a function of age.  It peaks

 

         20    here at just over age 20.  By age 30, the disciplinary

 

         21    infraction rate is only a half as much and continues to fall

 

         22    across the life span.  This is a phenomena that is demonstrated

 

         23    from generation to generation.  This is the incidence of

 

         24    criminal offenders in England and Wales in the 1840's, and this

 

         25    is the United States in the 1970's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Are all of those studies basically consistent with

 

          2    regard to what they find?

 

          3       A.   Yes, they are.  And regardless of the context that we

 

          4    look at, age is a very significant factor in these.

 

          5            This study is a community violence since 1990 study and

 

          6    looked at violence in the community, and again you see the same

 

          7    fall-off with age, violent offense and murder by age in the

 

          8    United States in 1981 peaking between the ages of 20 and 24, the

 

          9    age of Mark Barnette in this case, and following across the life

 

         10    span.

 

         11            This is looking at prison admissions across the life

 

         12    span, all offenses for murder, the likelihood of being admitted

 

         13    to prison fall into those as well, and the rate for offenders

 

         14    committing murder or manslaughter in 1995 and peaking at age 18

 

         15    to 24 and falling thereafter.

 

         16            This is a summary of prison findings, a very low rate of

 

         17    serious violent infractions -- the seriousness of offense does

 

         18    not predict prison violence.  Federal prisoners have very low

 

         19    rates of serious violence against inmates and extremely low

 

         20    rates of serious violence against staff.  Rate of inmate and

 

         21    staff homicides in prison are lower than general prison

 

         22    population.  Violent offenders represent almost, just under half

 

         23    of the state prison population.  Murderers represent over 11

 

         24    percent, murderers and manslaughter in the state prison

 

         25    population.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            Almost half of the long-term inmates are murderers.  The

 

          2    state studies that we looked at, disciplinary infraction rates

 

          3    are lower for long-term inmates than short-term inmates with

 

          4    fights and assaults representing only one-ninth of the

 

          5    infractions, and infraction rates are progressively lower as the

 

          6    inmate ages.  And so from general base perspectives, those are

 

          7    all conclusions that generate from these studies.

 

          8            Next the task is given this base rate information, is to

 

          9    particularize the risk assessment to Mark Barnette, to go from

 

         10    the broad statistical information to then adjusting our base

 

         11    rate a little higher or lower based on his characteristics.  As

 

         12    I would individualize this assessment to Mark Barnette, in this

 

         13    case I would begin by evaluating his history and the place that

 

         14    violence has had across his life in trying to understand the

 

         15    violence that he's exhibited historically and his violence in

 

         16    this tragic offense, and my understanding is that there's been

 

         17    quite a bit of testimony about these factors as well.

 

         18            Mark Barnette's background was one, his childhood was

 

         19    one what I would describe as recurrent damage attachment.  That

 

         20    means that in his primary relationships, with his mom, that she

 

         21    was inconsistently there for him and his dad was gone a good

 

         22    deal of the time when he was growing up, and there was some

 

         23    indication of having been physically abused and neglected and

 

         24    left to fend for himself and many injuries that affected the way

 

         25    in which he attached himself, he connects to other people.  I

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    think of early childhood as being like a time when emotionally

 

          2    you grow arms that let you feel good about holding other people

 

          3    emotionally.  And so if you are in a family where there is

 

          4    security and stability and routine and trust and care, then you

 

          5    learn to approach relationships in a really open, trusting way,

 

          6    you learn to love pretty well by the way that you were loved.

 

          7    And if that isn't what happened, then as you come into

 

          8    adulthood, your capacities, the way in which you try to attach

 

          9    to someone else may be injured and disabled in some way.

 

         10            Out of his recurrent damage attachment, I think there

 

         11    were two primary themes that emerge.  One was this hurt and

 

         12    anger about that recurrent experience across his growing up, and

 

         13    the other is neediness.  The way you learn to become autonomous

 

         14    as an independent person is as other people love you and care

 

         15    about you, that they fill you up and give you solidness so that

 

         16    you can be out there as an independent portable unit.  And when

 

         17    that doesn't happen, then you don't feel so good about yourself

 

         18    being out there and you end up being more needy for other

 

         19    people.

 

         20            Now, there is also these other factors that are going on

 

         21    at the same time.  There is a family legacy of domestic

 

         22    homicide, that his -- one of his grandmothers was shot by a

 

         23    boyfriend, and the family story about the other grandmother is

 

         24    that she was poisoned by a boyfriend.  He saw domestic violence

 

         25    in his own parents' relationship.  He had relationship failures

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    of his own and had experience of being victimized, of being

 

          2    beaten up and shot, and I think also ended up having some

 

          3    effects interpersonally.

 

          4            Now, out of the neediness comes dependance on a female

 

          5    partner, and Mark Barnette doesn't go very long before he

 

          6    attaches himself to a female.  Once he begins to separate

 

          7    emotionally from his family of origin and adolescence, he begins

 

          8    to make these attachments to women and become dependant on

 

          9    them.  Now, the problem is when you are dependant on someone,

 

         10    then there is emotional vulnerability, and his experience of

 

         11    emotional vulnerability is, gee, you get hurt, you're injured,

 

         12    people betray you, things aren't the way they seem to be.  So he

 

         13    behaves in a pretty insecure, fearful sort of way.  He's

 

         14    obsessively, and he's jealous and he has got all kinds of

 

         15    controlling behaviors and is physically abusive.  And my risk

 

         16    assessment includes the assumption that all of the things that

 

         17    he was convicted of are true, and the reports that his

 

         18    girlfriends have had about the way he treated them are true and

 

         19    are consistent with this kind of behavior within this system.

 

         20            Now, when he behaves in that way, then the relationship

 

         21    understandably enough begins to break down.  When it breaks

 

         22    down, he has tremendous abandonment anxiety and rejection.  The

 

         23    borderline personality disorder that Dr. Halleck diagnosed is a

 

         24    disorder that's characterized by profound anxiety and distress

 

         25    at the prospect of being abandoned.  And he becomes excessively

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    preoccupied about this abandonment and begins to experience a

 

          2    mixed mix experience of depression, rage and desperate futility

 

          3    that his life is over and that nothing has meaning, begins to

 

          4    have suicidal impulses and homicidal ideas towards his female

 

          5    partner.

 

          6            Now, other parties of this are feeding it as well.  The

 

          7    hurt and anger that he experienced is part of what feeds this

 

          8    obsessive possessiveness and controlling behavior, it feeds this

 

          9    excessive preoccupation, it feeds this desperate futility that

 

         10    he has.  In some instances, he emerges out of this back to

 

         11    establishing dependance on a female partner, so it stalls out

 

         12    and starts over again.  These events here feed his emotional

 

         13    vulnerability and his obsessive possessiveness and the rage and

 

         14    the homicidal ideas.  And then you have whatever way in which

 

         15    these young women and their own immaturity may have ways that

 

         16    also contributed to relationship trouble or to his insecurity

 

         17    and the presence of alcohol abuse on occasion that also

 

         18    occurred.

 

         19            So this is for me kind of an organizing model of under

 

         20    what circumstances does he become violent and what context does

 

         21    that occur.  And as I evaluate his history of violence, it

 

         22    virtually all seems to surround a domestic situation where he is

 

         23    in a relationship with a woman, and against the experience

 

         24    this -- these sequential steps and these two murders in this

 

         25    case seem to be a part of this final outcome, of the homicidal

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          833

 

 

          1    ideas towards Robin Williams and finally acting them out of this

 

          2    in killing Donald Allen along the way to get there.

 

          3            Now, as we individualize these factors to Mark Barnette,

 

          4    there is some that I think increase, in summary increase his

 

          5    risk of violence in prison, both the base rate somewhat and

 

          6    others that are likely to drop below the base rate.  His age at

 

          7    admission into prison is a factor that will increase, I think,

 

          8    the likelihood somewhat, although I qualify that because a

 

          9    significant number of the individuals that are convicted of

 

         10    capital offenses are about this age when they go into prison.

 

         11    And so maybe our base rates have already taken care of that, but

 

         12    in fairness I think that given his younger age, that's a risk

 

         13    factor of increased risk.

 

         14            There are several factors, I think, that may be

 

         15    associated with decreased risks, and again we are talking about

 

         16    very minor modifications in our base rates, not substantial

 

         17    departures.  That this offense was in a domestic relationship

 

         18    context, that the offense is of a chronic, I would describe as a

 

         19    chronic catathymic type.  That means that there's a long-term

 

         20    relationship, the relationship has ended.  There's a period of

 

         21    depression and brooding and that sort of thing that finally ends

 

         22    up being acted out and may be prompted in part by alcohol

 

         23    abuse.

 

         24            His prior violence was primarily restricted to the

 

         25    domestic relationship or related context.  With Crystal's

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    children, he used a coat hanger on them.  That was not directly

 

          2    associated with having a fight with her, wasn't a family

 

          3    situation where he apparently was feeling more vulnerable in

 

          4    that relationship with Crystal.  There are no writeups in the

 

          5    past or current county jail incarcerations.  In this instance,

 

          6    an argument could be made that he is on good behavior because he

 

          7    is facing a capital trial, although individuals don't always act

 

          8    well prior to trial.  There are no writeups by my understanding

 

          9    in my of his prior jail experiences as well when he wasn't

 

         10    facing a capital trial.  And as I visited with Tony Harrison, he

 

         11    described him as being an unremarkable inmate.  Tony has known

 

         12    him since childhood and said his demeanor as a child was quiet

 

         13    and nonaggressive and not belligerent, not a trouble maker, kept

 

         14    to himself, and that his presentation in jail is much the same.

 

         15            He had a positive adjustment to his evaluation

 

         16    incarceration at FCI Butner, and, in fact, was transferred there

 

         17    from a kind of seclusion, locked in his room setting into a

 

         18    general population.  He turned himself in, confessed, expressed

 

         19    remorse as I observed in the videotape of the confession.  Sally

 

         20    Johnson in her Butner records identified he was taking

 

         21    responsibility for the offense.  He is facing long-term

 

         22    incarceration, and he will be aging across the capital life

 

         23    term.  Again, this may or may not, these two may also be

 

         24    accounted for in our base rates.  All of these guys are aging

 

         25    across their terms and they are all facing long-term

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          835

 

 

          1    incarceration.

 

          2            These factors, I think, are primary ones as I would see

 

          3    as perhaps reducing his risk of violence somewhat below the base

 

          4    rate, as compared to our whole pool of capital offenders who

 

          5    potentially have had history of violence across a broad spectrum

 

          6    of situations, have been violent in prison or had offenses that

 

          7    were more armed robbery, predatory violence oriented.

 

          8            In terms of custody options that are available, this

 

          9    overhead is not complete.  I modified this and then put the

 

         10    wrong one in my packet.  But, in fact, in terms of options that

 

         11    are available within the federal prison system, there is also

 

         12    low and minimum security.  And then increasing through medium,

 

         13    then the U.S. penitentiary, which are considered high security.

 

         14    The U.S. penitentiary at Marion is one step up in security from

 

         15    the other high security prisons.  And then there is ADX

 

         16    Florence, also called Super Max, that has very particular and

 

         17    specific security apparatus in place to take care of inmates who

 

         18    have not been able to be managed elsewhere in the prison system

 

         19    or who because of their offenses have been identified as folks

 

         20    that are just thought to be too dangerous to be in the general

 

         21    prison population.  So they are placed in a Super Max setting

 

         22    either on a more temporary basis of a three-year pass through

 

         23    ADX Florence to kind of re-orient their adjustment to prison, or

 

         24    potentially on an indefinite basis.  There are some that are

 

         25    just kept there from now on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Is that the last overhead you have, Doctor?

 

          2       A.   There is one other regarding errors.

 

          3       Q.   Oh, all right, go ahead and show that and then I'll ask

 

          4    you a question.

 

          5       A.   There are a number of methodological errors,

 

          6    methodological meaning there are a number of ways to go about

 

          7    this risk assessment wrong, are faulty, and this overhead is

 

          8    intended to summarize some of the approaches that are identified

 

          9    in literature as being faulty to make you a better consumer of

 

         10    risk assessment information.

 

         11            So there are a number of ways this can go wrong.  One

 

         12    way is insufficient data.  If there is not enough information

 

         13    about the defendant or not enough information about the context

 

         14    that he is going into, then that's one way that the risk

 

         15    assessment can be faulty, because then I'm overreaching, I'm

 

         16    going beyond my data and I'm casting the net too broadly, I'm

 

         17    overgeneralizing about what these figures mean in this situation

 

         18    over here.  Often when this occurs, the person is not paying

 

         19    attention to how often what the base rate is of these things in

 

         20    the general population.  For example, there were studies of

 

         21    various parts of the country that 25 to 30 percent of males

 

         22    below the age of 30 have a nontraffic arrest.  So before I view

 

         23    a nontraffic arrest as highly predictive of something, I need to

 

         24    know how often that's occurring out there.

 

         25            Illusory correlation, that means that I think two things

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          837

 

 

          1    are related to each other, but they are not.  When we looked at

 

          2    the severity of the offense and whether he is likely to be

 

          3    violent in prison, if I think those things are directly

 

          4    connected to each other, that's an illusory correlation.  That's

 

          5    my own bias and belief, that isn't what the data tells us.

 

          6            Perhaps the most important thing in terms of errors is

 

          7    if there is no reference to base rate.  In the Forensic

 

          8    Psychiatry Board review course, they talk about that absence of

 

          9    knowledge of the base rates, not knowing the base rates is a

 

         10    common and very serious error in risk assessments.  So again, I

 

         11    must have the base rates.  In doing it wrong, there is typically

 

         12    an emphasis on the offense severity, inferring that the guy

 

         13    can't have a conscience if he did that, absolutely he is going

 

         14    to do this in the future, the offense scares you to death,

 

         15    therefore, I have to be scared o him, he is going to be violent,

 

         16    that kind of emotional reasoning.

 

         17            Another area is neglect to risk components.  In other

 

         18    words, is there a differentiation between risk in the community

 

         19    as opposed to the risk in the context of prison, or have we

 

         20    differentiated whether or not -- what level of custody he is

 

         21    going to be at in prison.  The other risk component that is

 

         22    often ignored is there is no discrimination between what is his

 

         23    likelihood of getting into a fight and slapping somebody as

 

         24    opposed to a serious assault as opposed to killing an inmate as

 

         25    opposed to killing a guard, and instead they just talk about in

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    a very simplistic and absolute way, the person is dangerous or

 

          2    is not, without breaking it down into these components.

 

          3       Q.   Is that your last overhead, Your

 

          4    Honor -- Dr. Cunningham?

 

          5       A.   Yes, it is.

 

          6       Q.   Let me ask you this question:  Have you formed an

 

          7    opinion in this case about Mark Barnette's likelihood of serious

 

          8    violence if confined for life in federal prison?

 

          9       A.   Yes, I have.

 

         10       Q.   What is your opinion?

 

         11       A.   My opinion is that likelihood is very low.

 

         12       Q.   Would you face the jury when you answer that question,

 

         13    please?

 

         14            MR. CONRAD:  Asked and answered.

 

         15            THE COURT:  Sustained.

 

         16            MR. WILLIAMS:  You may take the stand now, Doctor.  You

 

         17    may cross-examine.

 

         18            THE COURT:  Is your cross-examination going to be

 

         19    lengthy or short or what?

 

         20            MR. CONRAD:  Moderate.

 

         21            THE COURT:  Well, you want to go to lunch first -- you

 

         22    know how long it's going to be, lunch?

 

         23            MR. CONRAD:  I have no preference, Judge, whatever the

 

         24    Court wants.

 

         25            THE COURT:  Members of the jury, probably ought to go

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    ahead and take lunch period at this time.  Do not discuss the

 

          2    case among yourselves or with anyone outside of the courtroom.

 

          3    We'll see you at -- 1:30 going to rush you too much?  Say 1:40?

 

          4    1:40, I think I heard a couple of nods there.  All right, 1:40

 

          5    then.

 

          6            (The jury left the courtroom.)

 

          7            THE COURT:  Recess until 1:40.

 

          8            (Lunch recess.)

 

          9            CROSS-EXAMINATION

 

         10            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         11       Q.   Mr. Cunningham, I believe you testified that you

 

         12    interviewed the defendant for 11 hours starting January 3rd, is

 

         13    that correct?

 

         14       A.   Yes, as I recall that was 11 hours and 22 minutes.

 

         15       Q.   And that was approximately a month after the lawyers for

 

         16    the defendant filed a summary of your testimony and expertise

 

         17    with the Court, is that correct?

 

         18       A.   That's correct, I'd been scheduled to come out in early

 

         19    December, as I recall, and that trip was delayed as I was

 

         20    waiting for my temporary permit from the North Carolina

 

         21    Licensing Board.

 

         22       Q.   And then you filed a report on January 14th which is

 

         23    basically a page and a half report indicating your findings with

 

         24    respect to the defendant, Aquilia Marcivicci Barnette, correct?

 

         25       A.   Up to that -- my conclusions up to that time, that's

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    correct.

 

          2       Q.   And what did you do since that time, if anything?

 

          3       A.   On January 24th and following, I had telephone

 

          4    interviews of Derrick Barnette, Mario Barnette, Sheila Cooper,

 

          5    Steve Austin, Brian Ard, Shonda Nero, Sonia Barnette, Captain

 

          6    Allen Cobb, Jailer Tony A. Harrison, Charlotte Mecklenburg

 

          7    Police Officer Elizabeth Joye, and Dr. Sally Johnson from FCI

 

          8    Butner.  I attempted interviews of other individuals and

 

          9    reviewed the interviews that Cindy Maxwell had provided,

 

         10    summaries of regarding an extended list of additional third

 

         11    parties.

 

         12       Q.   How did any efforts that you made in this case after

 

         13    January 14th affect your testimony here today?

 

         14       A.   The information that I gathered after that time extended

 

         15    and expanded and corroborated for the most part most of the

 

         16    conclusions that I had from the earlier report that I filed.

 

         17       Q.   And how did it do that?

 

         18       A.   By extending the amount of data that I had, I had up to

 

         19    that point, the information that I had obtained from Mark

 

         20    Barnette and it had his description of life history, and had

 

         21    seen a limited amount of summary information in his life history

 

         22    that Cindy Maxwell provided.  That's not the same though as

 

         23    actually speaking directly to the family members who were then

 

         24    involved with him and who could tell me about his life events or

 

         25    in reading the summaries of Cindy Maxwell's interviews with

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          841

 

 

          1    those individuals.

 

          2            There was other data that I obtained from the report

 

          3    that had been filed by Dr. Johnson and her staff, information

 

          4    that I obtained from talking to jailer Tony Harrison regarding

 

          5    his adjustment in an institutional setting that I had not

 

          6    directly had, so it gave me much more direct information to try

 

          7    to base my conclusions on.

 

          8       Q.   And how did the obtaining of that direct information,

 

          9    how did that -- in what way substantively did it change anything

 

         10    that you said here today from what you filed on January 14th?

 

         11       A.   (Pause while witness reviews documents.) I don't know

 

         12    that I see anything that is substantively different in the

 

         13    initial report that I filed on the basis of those things, it's

 

         14    certainly the pool of information that I had to work with and to

 

         15    integrate was substantially larger.  And --

 

         16       Q.   I understand that you have --

 

         17            MR. WILLIAMS:  Objection, he is interrupting the

 

         18    witness.

 

         19            THE COURT:  Wait just a minute.

 

         20            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         21       Q.   I understand that you had additional information to look

 

         22    at, I'm asking you how it's changed or added to your testimony?

 

         23       A.   Well, it's added to it in terms of significant detail

 

         24    and significant information that I didn't have at the time that

 

         25    I filed this initial report.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          842

 

 

          1       Q.   And what in your presentation today changed or was added

 

          2    to, what things did you testify about today that you could not

 

          3    have testified about back in December when your attorneys filed

 

          4    the summary of your report?

 

          5       A.   The report was -- a summary was filed in January.

 

          6       Q.   No, there was a summary of your testimony filed December

 

          7    8th with this Court prior to your examining the defendant and

 

          8    prior to conducting interviews on January 24th, and I'm asking

 

          9    you what did you testify to today that you couldn't have

 

         10    testified to back in December?

 

         11       A.   You are forgetting, I'm not familiar -- did I recall a

 

         12    report that I filed on December 8th of this year.

 

         13       Q.   Let me hand to you what I marked as Government Exhibit

 

         14    71.

 

         15            MR. CONRAD: May I approach, Your Honor.

 

         16            MR. LAUGHRUN:  We would like to be heard on this if we

 

         17    can.

 

         18            THE COURT:  All right, sir.

 

         19            (Bench conference not recorded.)

 

         20            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         21       Q.   Did you have any contact with attorneys Williams and

 

         22    Laughrun prior to December 10th, 1997?

 

         23       A.   I don't recall my date of first contact with them.  By

 

         24    my recollection my first contact was late in November, early in

 

         25    December of 1997.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          843

 

 

          1       Q.   Let me approach to hand to you what has been marked for

 

          2    identification Government's Exhibit 71 entitled Defense Notice

 

          3    to Government of Intent to Introduce Mental Health Testimony at

 

          4    the Penalty Phase.  And I'll ask you if you turn your attention

 

          5    to the highlighted portion on page two, and would you read that

 

          6    to the jury?

 

          7       A.   A brief general summary of the topics Dr. Cunningham

 

          8    will address relate to the issue of future dangerousness of the

 

          9    defendant and future dangerousness of capital defendants in

 

         10    general as well as potential mitigation testimony in this

 

         11    regard.

 

         12       Q.   Now, my question to you is how is your testimony any

 

         13    different today than it would have been on December 10th, 1997

 

         14    as a result of interviewing the defendant for 11 hours and

 

         15    conducting interviews on January 24th?

 

         16       A.   On December 10th, I did not have firsthand data to

 

         17    individualize or particularize the base rates that we had

 

         18    discussed today, so that that individualization of this risk

 

         19    assessment is based on the information that I obtained

 

         20    individually about this defendant and about this case, including

 

         21    reading all of the records and interviewing him and talking to

 

         22    third party members, that's what gave me the data base to

 

         23    individualize or particularize my risk assessment.

 

         24       Q.   Is it fair to say that the first 36 slides you showed

 

         25    this jury were not influenced in any way because of your

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          844

 

 

          1    interviewing the defendant or other witnesses in this case?

 

          2       A.   Again, I didn't take a number of the slides, the slides

 

          3    that dealt with future dangerousness, the base rate slides were

 

          4    not directly influenced by my interviews with the defendant.

 

          5    Some of that additional research was undertaken after December

 

          6    10th.  I continue to be a student of this literature, and some

 

          7    of those slides were prepared and that research data I have

 

          8    accumulated across the last couple of months.

 

          9       Q.   Did you not bring with you yesterday afternoon Barnette

 

         10    Exhibit Notebook and through the attorneys tender it to us

 

         11    yesterday afternoon?

 

         12       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         13       Q.   And were those a compilation of slides many of which you

 

         14    used today?

 

         15       A.   Yes.

 

         16       Q.   And you indicated that you didn't keep a number of the

 

         17    slides, I numbered them as you went through them, would you like

 

         18    to take a look at the first 36 and tell me which ones were

 

         19    influenced by your interview of the defendant?

 

         20       A.   Be glad to.

 

         21       Q.   What I'm looking for, Doctor, is which of the first 36

 

         22    slides that you presented to this jury are any different today

 

         23    than they were December 10th of last year before you ever

 

         24    interviewed the defendant.

 

         25       A.   (Pause).  The slides on base rates would be no different

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          845

 

 

          1    whether we are talking about this defendant or another, the base

 

          2    rates are the same.

 

          3       Q.   They are the same slides that you presented in Richmond,

 

          4    Chicago, Arkansas, Texas and other places where you have

 

          5    testified in death penalty cases, are they not?

 

          6       A.   Some of the slides have been utilized as I testified

 

          7    about base rates in other places, some of these slides have not

 

          8    been presented at all.

 

          9       Q.   How have your interviews of the defendant or other

 

         10    witnesses in this case changed in any way your risk assessment

 

         11    of this particular defendant?

 

         12       A.   My initial impression of the defendant -- well, before I

 

         13    interviewed him or before I collected the data, I didn't have a

 

         14    particularized risk assessment of this defendant.  I had, you

 

         15    know, significant knowledge of the base rates that apply but I

 

         16    didn't know this defendant to individualize that risk assessment

 

         17    to him.  So everything that I undertook after that was to gather

 

         18    data to individualize this risk assessment to this defendant.

 

         19       Q.   Have you ever testified in a death penalty case and

 

         20    given testimony that after the particularized process that the

 

         21    defendant was a risk of violence?

 

         22       A.   In every case that I have testified in I have identified

 

         23    that the defendant has some risk of violence.  What I have given

 

         24    is a base rate and I have individualized that base rate, and in

 

         25    each one of those cases there is some risk.  And I have simply

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          846

 

 

          1    attempted to assess the degree of that risk as closely as

 

          2    possible.

 

          3       Q.   I think one of the last statements that you made is that

 

          4    the likelihood of this defendant being a risk of danger is very

 

          5    low in the future?

 

          6       A.   Confined for life in federal prison, that's correct.

 

          7       Q.   And have you ever testified in a death penalty case

 

          8    about any defendant and concluded otherwise?

 

          9       A.   The base rates are such -- the base rate likelihood of

 

         10    violence in this group is very low.  The individualized factors

 

         11    that I have looked at in those other cases have not persuaded me

 

         12    that the degree of risk with that defendant was far beyond that

 

         13    low base rate estimate.

 

         14       Q.   I listened to your presentation and I'm aware of your

 

         15    opinion, but the question I asked you was, have you ever

 

         16    testified in a federal death penalty case and concluded other

 

         17    than your conclusion here today?  That can be answered with a

 

         18    yes or no.

 

         19       A.   My conclusion in all of those other cases was that there

 

         20    was a low risk.

 

         21       Q.   Okay.  Now, you are not affiliated in any way with the

 

         22    Bureau of Prisons are you?

 

         23       A.   No, I'm not.

 

         24       Q.   Not affiliated with the Texas Department of Corrections?

 

         25       A.   No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          847

 

 

          1       Q.   You indicated that you are board certified, when did you

 

          2    get board certified?

 

          3       A.   In February 1995.

 

          4       Q.   Was that about the same time you started testifying in

 

          5    death penalty cases?

 

          6       A.   My first death penalty case that I was involved in was

 

          7    prior to that, perhaps a couple of years before that, but that

 

          8    had been the only death penalty case that I was involved in

 

          9    prior to becoming board certified.

 

         10       Q.   I believe you testified to at least either death penalty

 

         11    cases or habeas cases, how many times have you testified

 

         12    concerning risk assessment in those type of cases?

 

         13       A.   As I described, I believe in six federal cases, an

 

         14    active sentencing and once in federal habeas that I testified

 

         15    regarding risk assessments in capital cases, and in four state

 

         16    cases that were in active penalty and one habeas regarding

 

         17    future dangerousness.

 

         18       Q.   And those have all been in the last couple of years?

 

         19       A.   That's correct.

 

         20       Q.   And there is a 20 year gap between the time you obtained

 

         21    your Ph.D. and the time you obtained your board certification?

 

         22       A.   That's correct.  It's not unusual in psychology for

 

         23    board certification to be something that's delayed .  In

 

         24    medicine it's typical that individuals are board certified as

 

         25    soon as they finish their residency and it's virtually kind of

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          848

 

 

          1    an entrance credential.  In psychology, board certification is

 

          2    not at all universal, it's a relatively unusual thing, and it's

 

          3    intended to identify individuals who are more senior in status

 

          4    and are practicing at the highest levels of expertise.  So it's

 

          5    not a routine credential.  And most of my forensic colleagues

 

          6    obtained their board certification in forensic psychology in mid

 

          7    life.

 

          8       Q.   So there is a 20 years gap between obtaining your Ph.D.

 

          9    and your board certification?

 

         10       A.   I obtained my Ph.D. in 1978 and I was board certified in

 

         11    1995, so that's 16, 17 years.

 

         12       Q.   Now, you take this slide show and testify all over the

 

         13    country, do you not?

 

         14       A.   I have used these overheads and have testified about

 

         15    risk assessment in many different jurisdictions.

 

         16       Q.   Chicago in November?

 

         17       A.   That's correct.

 

         18       Q.   Richmond in July?

 

         19       A.   That's correct.

 

         20       Q.   Hot Springs, Arkansas in June?

 

         21       A.   That's correct.

 

         22       Q.   Louisiana, Texas?

 

         23       A.   That's correct.

 

         24       Q.   How are you paid in these cases?

 

         25       A.   I'm paid by the hour for my time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          849

 

 

          1       Q.   It's a fairly lucrative part of your practice, is it

 

          2    not?

 

          3       A.   I'm not sure how to respond to the characterization.

 

          4       Q.   Let me ask you a straightforward question.  How much

 

          5    were you paid in Hot Spring, Arkansas for your testimony,

 

          6    evaluation and testimony there?

 

          7            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Objection to relevancy.

 

          8            THE COURT:  Overruled.

 

          9            THE WITNESS:  First I'm not paid for my evaluation or my

 

         10    testimony, I'm paid for my time.

 

         11            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         12       Q.   How much income did you receive as a result of your

 

         13    participation in the federal capital case in Hot Springs,

 

         14    Arkansas in June of 1996?

 

         15       A.   I'm not going to be able to quote you an exact figure,

 

         16    but it was someplace in the neighborhood of $21,000.

 

         17       Q.   Have you ever testified for the government in a capital

 

         18    case?

 

         19       A.   I have not been asked to testify by the government in a

 

         20    capital case.

 

         21            THE COURT:  The question was have you ever testified,

 

         22    can you answer the question and then you can go back and

 

         23    explain.

 

         24            THE WITNESS:  No, I have not testified for the

 

         25    government.  And if I might expand, I have not been asked by the

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          850

 

 

          1    government to testify although I'd be glad to do that.  I'm not

 

          2    sure that this statistical information is helpful to the

 

          3    government's position in these cases.

 

          4            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

          5       Q.   In addition to the 11, approximately 11 matters you have

 

          6    testified in, how many are pending at this point where you've

 

          7    been retained as an expert witness in either a death penalty

 

          8    case or a habeas case related to the imposition of the death

 

          9    penalty?

 

         10       A.   Again, I don't know that I can speak with certainty

 

         11    about that, and I have not prepared a list but I would expect

 

         12    that there are 8 or 10 cases that I have been contacted about.

 

         13       Q.   Now, the Hot Springs, Arkansas case, that involved a

 

         14    defendant named Trinity Ingle, did it not?

 

         15       A.   Yes.

 

         16       Q.   Do you recall testifying in that case about two sharp

 

         17    instruments possessed by Trinity Ingle in jail?

 

         18       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         19       Q.   And were they referred to in court as shanks?

 

         20       A.   That was a characterization of them by the government,

 

         21    that's correct.

 

         22       Q.   What was your characterization?

 

         23       A.   Well, these were two instruments that Trinity Ingle had

 

         24    in his cell.  One was a water color paint brush that had the

 

         25    point sharpened on it, and the other was a razor, a plastic like

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          851

 

 

          1    Bick disposal razor that he had broken open and had taken the

 

          2    blade and using a match melted the end of the plastic and

 

          3    attached the blade to it, and these had been in open view in his

 

          4    cell for apparently a couple of weeks.

 

          5            And what he was doing with them is he would take an

 

          6    athletic sock and use the pointed end of the water color brush

 

          7    to tease out the elastic and use the sharpened blade to cut the

 

          8    elastic until he had all the elastic out of the sock.  And then

 

          9    he unraveled the sock into one long line of yarn.  And then he

 

         10    had taken that and had knotted a very intricate necklace out of

 

         11    it and also had done this intricate knotting of the letters

 

         12    spelling out Twitty, which was his nickname, Twitty Bird,

 

         13    because he was a small slender guy, head seemed a little large

 

         14    for his shoulders, and he had this nickname, so he was making

 

         15    himself a necklace with these instruments with that.

 

         16       Q.   Did you also testify that a baton he had with 12 double

 

         17    A batteries inside which was described as a weapon was actually

 

         18    a home made baseball bat?

 

         19       A.   Yes, I did.  By his description, it's my understanding

 

         20    it had some batteries that he rolled newspaper around and then

 

         21    had taped that or wrapped it with his twine, and had a little

 

         22    ball that was the ball out of a deodorant roll on tube, and

 

         23    would take that outside to the rec yard and use that to wack his

 

         24    little ball up against the wall.  And apparently he had it for a

 

         25    week or so until the staff determined that this could

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          852

 

 

          1    potentially represent a security hazard and took it away from

 

          2    him.

 

          3       Q.   Did you characterize Trinity Ingle in court as a low

 

          4    risk of violence?

 

          5       A.   That was my testimony based upon base rates that I

 

          6    described.

 

          7       Q.   Do you recall testifying in Richmond, Virginia in the

 

          8    Dean Beckford case in July of last year?

 

          9       A.   Yes, I did.

 

         10       Q.   And did you testify there that someone who carries a

 

         11    weapon in prison for quote, self protection, end of quote really

 

         12    reduces the degree of risk of violence?

 

         13       A.   I'm not sure that -- I don't recall that

 

         14    characterization specifically.

 

         15       Q.   Do you recall testifying about an attack on an inmate

 

         16    with a razor embedded in a plastic holder and testifying that

 

         17    that would only modestly affect the increase in risk because

 

         18    some of the factors that produced it including the stress of

 

         19    trial, and that quote, some willingness to protect yourself

 

         20    might be seen as phenomena that lowers the risk of serious

 

         21    violence?

 

         22       A.   Yes, I recall that.  If someone in prison behaves in an

 

         23    overly passive fashion and does not stand up for himself, then

 

         24    inmates who are around him who are more violent and more

 

         25    predatory will begin to prey on him.  So there is a need for a

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          853

 

 

          1    person to try to stand up for himself and protect himself in

 

          2    that situation that others don't see him as someone to prey on.

 

          3            When somebody a being preyed on and doesn't defend

 

          4    themselves along the way, they increase potentially the

 

          5    likelihood eventually of having to stand up in a very dramatic

 

          6    way, or retaliate in a more significant fashion so the minor

 

          7    skirmishes that helped kind of establish someone's boundaries

 

          8    while increasing the likelihood of kind of fight sort of

 

          9    violence, may reduce the likelihood of a more substantial

 

         10    violence in the long run.

 

         11       Q.   I believe you testified concerning base rates that one

 

         12    of the studies that you relied upon was the Texas study

 

         13    involving 92 death row inmates who in one form or another had

 

         14    the death sentences commuted?

 

         15       A.   That's right, that's the first chart that was put up

 

         16    today.

 

         17       Q.   And your conclusion was that murderers are less

 

         18    dangerous in prison than other inmates?

 

         19       A.   Yes, when you look at the base rates of violence rather

 

         20    than being disproportionately more likely to engage in serious

 

         21    violence in prison, they as a group are disproportionately less

 

         22    likely from that study.

 

         23       Q.   Would you agree with me that the key to the accuracy of

 

         24    your assessment is determining a group in which the defendant

 

         25    actually belongs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          854

 

 

          1       A.   That's correct, that was why we were looking at him in

 

          2    terms of other capital offenders in terms of long-term inmates,

 

          3    in terms of being someone who is in federal prison, as being

 

          4    someone who is in federal high security prison.  Those were all

 

          5    attempts to try to characterize him by different groups and

 

          6    evaluate what the base rate likelihood of violence would be

 

          7    within each group.

 

          8       Q.   You agree that group characteristics that are not

 

          9    sufficiently defined will cause the predictions that you make to

 

         10    be considered invalid?

 

         11       A.   If the person simply has no correspondence to the group

 

         12    that you are using to compare them to, then obviously your

 

         13    prediction, your estimate is going to be faulty.  In most cases

 

         14    in a risk assessment, the person that you are talking about is

 

         15    not going to be a perfect match with the whole group, but

 

         16    instead it's as close -- it's a close fit.  You try to work for

 

         17    the nearest possible group fit, and as I described, ideally

 

         18    there would be a study that would follow federal capital inmates

 

         19    and look at their risk of violence over time.

 

         20       Q.   What was the average age of the Texas inmates that were

 

         21    studied, the 92 Texas inmates, what was average age?

 

         22       A.   I'm not sure if that was recorded.  Let me look in that

 

         23    article and see.  (pause.)

 

         24            I don't think the age of the inmates was specified in

 

         25    this study.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          855

 

 

          1       Q.   How many of those inmates were in custody for committing

 

          2    more than one murder within a 24 hour period of time?

 

          3       A.   That I don't think is reported among the offense

 

          4    characteristics of these inmates.

 

          5       Q.   How many of these inmates were in custody for committing

 

          6    10 or more felony offenses within a six week period of time?

 

          7       A.   The periods of time prior to their arrest are not broken

 

          8    out specifically.  There is discussion in the study about the

 

          9    number of prior offenses in general that someone has, but not in

 

         10    specific relationship to across a three or four week or six

 

         11    month period of time.

 

         12       Q.   And those people -- inmates were followed for seven and

 

         13    a half year period of time?

 

         14       A.   On average.

 

         15       Q.   And do you know what happened to them after the seven

 

         16    and a half year period of time?

 

         17       A.   That's as far as this article reported, that's correct.

 

         18       Q.   You also cited a national study, a Furman commutation?

 

         19       A.   That's correct.

 

         20       Q.   And those inmates were followed for a 15 year period of

 

         21    time?

 

         22       A.   Up to 15 years, that's correct.

 

         23       Q.   I believe that you do know something about some of those

 

         24    inmates after the 15 year period, do you not?

 

         25       A.   Not beyond, I don't have information beyond what is in

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          856

 

 

          1    the article that I described.

 

          2       Q.   You know for a fact, do you not, that one of those

 

          3    inmates killed a correctional officer outside the 15 year period

 

          4    of time, do you not?

 

          5       A.   There may be an indications to that effect, I don't

 

          6    recall that being reported in the article.

 

          7       Q.   Do you recall testifying to that effect in the Beckford

 

          8    trial in Virginia?

 

          9       A.   I would again have to look in the study to refresh

 

         10    myself, if it's described --

 

         11       Q.   My question to you is, do you recall testifying to that

 

         12    effect in Virginia in July of last year?

 

         13       A.   No, I do not.

 

         14       Q.   Do you recall testifying in Virginia that another of the

 

         15    subjects in that study from Ohio murdered a prison shop

 

         16    supervisor after the 15 year period of time?

 

         17       A.   I don't recall -- I don't recall my testimony clearly in

 

         18    that case or which article that I was referencing at that time.

 

         19       Q.   Now, you indicated that your actuarial method is similar

 

         20    to the auto insurance business?

 

         21       A.   Yeah, that's an analogy.

 

         22       Q.   If you were to establish a base rate for accidents in

 

         23    New York City and try to conclude something about the risk in

 

         24    Gastonia, North Carolina would you think you had a sufficient

 

         25    base rate to do that to be helpful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   It depends on the nature of the drivers that we are

 

          2    talking about and what the actuarial studies tell us about what

 

          3    factors are most important.  For example, our actuarial data

 

          4    might reveal that age is the primary factor, being 16 years old

 

          5    is the primary factor, and what local you are driving in affects

 

          6    that in only a minor way.  Alternatively our base rate data

 

          7    might tell us that age is not very important and what city I'm

 

          8    driving in is what's fundamentally important.

 

          9            So we look at, as we study the base rates from one

 

         10    geographic zone to the next, do different factors seem to

 

         11    emerge, and that's's part of the strength of this capital data.

 

         12    To the extent that the base rates are similar from Texas to

 

         13    nationwide to Missouri to New Jersey, then it increases our

 

         14    sense that we can generalize that to additional correctional

 

         15    settings.

 

         16       Q.   Do you think the auto insurance establishes rates in

 

         17    Gastonia, North Carolina based upon driving experiences of

 

         18    16-year-olds in New York City?

 

         19       A.   I can't tell you with certainty exactly how they arrive

 

         20    at their rates there in Gastonia and how much they factor in

 

         21    place as opposed to age.

 

         22       Q.   Would you also agree that another analogy for what

 

         23    you've done here today with your rate assessment is similar to

 

         24    predicting the weather?

 

         25       A.   That's another analogy in that the weather forecaster

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    also uses scientific methods, doesn't tell you for certain, yes,

 

          2    it's going to rain or no, it isn't, but instead gives you a

 

          3    percent likelihood of that phenomenon.  And that analogy is one

 

          4    that has been used in, again, the conceptual literature that was

 

          5    a studied about a year ago in the American Psychologist that

 

          6    referred to it in that fashion.

 

          7       Q.   And you have testified before under oath in other

 

          8    jurisdictions that it's similar to predicting the weather?

 

          9       A.   I made that analogy as well.

 

         10       Q.   Let me approach and hand you again the three ring binder

 

         11    entitled Barnette Exhibits which I understand you to have

 

         12    provided to us yesterday and ask you if you would turn to a page

 

         13    which I have labeled page 9.

 

         14            Now, you have a corresponding slide that contains

 

         15    information similar to what is on page 9?

 

         16       A.   Yes, I do.

 

         17       Q.   And what is page 9 in that book?

 

         18       A.   Page 9 is a break down of the individuals in the Texas

 

         19    study by their prior criminal history in terms of prior

 

         20    incidents, prior violent incidents, prior convictions for

 

         21    violent crimes, convictions for property crimes, past adult

 

         22    incarcerations.  And it breaks out both the individuals that

 

         23    were released from death row and those who got a capital life

 

         24    sentence in the beginning and has a percentage for each of

 

         25    those.  And it might be easier to see, I'll be glad to put that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    up.

 

          2       Q.   Sure, that will be fine.

 

          3       A.   (Witness puts slide on projection screen.)

 

          4       Q.   This is a slide that states at the top, Inmate Prior

 

          5    Criminal History?

 

          6       A.   That's correct.

 

          7       Q.   And you have used this slide in testimony before in

 

          8    situations where the particular defendant you were testifying

 

          9    for did not have a significant criminal history?

 

         10       A.   That's correct.

 

         11       Q.   Now, how is prior incident defined in that slide?

 

         12       A.   It says, includes every known contact with a police

 

         13    agency.

 

         14       Q.   So that if a particular defendant had five or

 

         15    more -- strike that.

 

         16            If someone had five or more prior incidents, only 35

 

         17    percent of those 92 death row inmates had five or more prior

 

         18    incidents, is that correct?

 

         19       A.   That's correct, that is the highest representative

 

         20    percentages of both the folks released from death row and the

 

         21    life sentence group.

 

         22       Q.   So that if a particular defendant had five or more prior

 

         23    incidents he would be different than 65 percent of the 92 death

 

         24    row inmates?

 

         25       A.   That's correct, or consistent with 35 percent of them,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    and which is also the modal distribution here of being the

 

          2    largest percentage represented, so 65 percent that he is not

 

          3    consistent with and 35 percent that he is.

 

          4       Q.   Right.  How about prior violent incidents, how is that

 

          5    defined?

 

          6       A.   Prior violent incident are defined as -- includes

 

          7    violent arrests from serious such as murder to minor such as

 

          8    fighting.

 

          9       Q.   So that if -- only 11 percent of those death row inmates

 

         10    had three or more prior violent incidents, correct?

 

         11       A.   That's correct.

 

         12       Q.   So that if a particular defendant such as Aquilia

 

         13    Marcivicci Barnette had three or more prior violent incidents,

 

         14    he would be different than 89 percent of the 92 death row

 

         15    inmates in the Texas study?

 

         16       A.   That's correct, 11 percent had three or more and 89

 

         17    percent had fewer than that.

 

         18       Q.   Turn to convictions for violent crime, how is that

 

         19    defined?

 

         20       A.   Convictions for violent crimes includes murder,

 

         21    aggravated assault, armed robbery and rape.

 

         22       Q.   So that if a defendant had prior convictions for violent

 

         23    crimes one or two, he would be different than 85 percent of

 

         24    those inmates studied?

 

         25       A.   If his convictions were for murder, aggravated assault,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    armed robbery or rape, if that's what the convictions were for,

 

          2    and he had two or more, then he would be discrepant in that

 

          3    way.  If they did not include those issues, then he would fall

 

          4    into another group.

 

          5       Q.   How about convictions for property crimes?

 

          6       A.   Property crimes are identified as burglary, auto theft,

 

          7    arson and larceny.

 

          8       Q.   Would it include breaking and entering?

 

          9       A.   Not according to this chart, I'm not sure where that

 

         10    would go.  Property crimes are oriented towards crimes that are

 

         11    done with an intention of profit, by my understanding, that may

 

         12    be the implication here.  I'm not sure where breaking and

 

         13    entering falls into this, perhaps under every known contact with

 

         14    the police since this really isn't burglary, auto theft, arson

 

         15    or larceny.

 

         16       Q.   Let's talk about adult incarcerations.  If a defendant

 

         17    had three or more, he would be different than 93 percent of the

 

         18    death row inmates?

 

         19       A.   That's correct, the feature of this that I'm not certain

 

         20    about is whether by adult incarcerations in the study they are

 

         21    talking about prior prison incarcerations or prior jail

 

         22    incarcerations, in terms of the three or more periods of

 

         23    incarcerations.

 

         24       Q.   This is a slide that you have used elsewhere but not

 

         25    here today?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       A.   That's correct.  I had a lot of slides and was trying to

 

          2    be sensitive to the fatigue of the jury.

 

          3       Q.   Uh-huh.  How about your slide on the type of homicide,

 

          4    do you have that with you today?

 

          5       A.   Certainly do.

 

          6       Q.   Would you put that up for the jury.

 

          7       A.   (Witness complies.)

 

          8       Q.   What does that slide depict with respect to the 92 death

 

          9    row inmates that were studied in the Texas study?

 

         10       A.   This slide depicts what I described in my testimony on

 

         11    direct that within this group of offenders in the Texas study

 

         12    these are the elements of capital murder from the individuals

 

         13    that were released from death row into capital life terms, and

 

         14    these were the ones sentenced to capital life from the

 

         15    beginning.  And these represent elements of capital murder and

 

         16    what percentage of the individuals was involved in each of

 

         17    these.

 

         18       Q.   Well, something you did not testify to on direct, I do

 

         19    not believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, is the category,

 

         20    relationship to victims, did you testify about that?

 

         21       A.   I don't think so.

 

         22       Q.   Why don't you go ahead and tell the jury what that

 

         23    category is.

 

         24       A.   The relationship to the victim involves what percentage

 

         25    of these individuals, whether the murder involved the murder of

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    a stranger or whether the murder involved someone who was not a

 

          2    stranger.  And in this case, we have one of each, there is the

 

          3    murder of a stranger and the murder of a nonstranger.

 

          4       Q.   You understand from your review of the discovery, do you

 

          5    not, that Donnie Lee Allen was a total stranger to Mark

 

          6    Barnette?

 

          7       A.   Yes, I do.

 

          8       Q.   So that with respect to that murder, he is different

 

          9    than 75 percent of the Texas inmates, correct?

 

         10       A.   No, the relationship of the victim, 75 percent of those

 

         11    were strangers to the perpetrator.

 

         12       Q.   Oh, I see.

 

         13       A.   So he is consistent with a large group of those here.

 

         14    The nonstranger aspect of this study involves the 25 percent,

 

         15    the -- murder is -- relatively high percentage of murder

 

         16    involves individuals who are known to the defendant, many of

 

         17    those though are not in a capital setting.

 

         18       Q.   Okay, but the murder of Robin Williams would qualify as

 

         19    a murder that is different than 75 percent of the murders

 

         20    reflected in the death row study?

 

         21       A.   That's correct.  25 percent of these individuals killed

 

         22    someone who was a nonstranger.

 

         23       Q.   What percentage of those individuals killed both a

 

         24    nonstranger and a stranger?

 

         25       A.   That's not broken out.  I can't provide you with that

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    information.

 

          2       Q.   This was a slide that you have used in other

 

          3    jurisdictions but not here today?

 

          4       A.   That's correct.  This slide is, or one very similar is

 

          5    contained in the article that reported this study.

 

          6       Q.   Now, one of the slides that you did use was a slide

 

          7    involving the Factors Associated With Violence in the First Six

 

          8    Months in Federal Prison Confinement, do you recall that slide?

 

          9       A.   Yes, I do.

 

         10       Q.   And two of the three factors in that slide would fit

 

         11    this defendant, would it not?

 

         12       A.   Yes, they would.  The younger age again, the age range

 

         13    in that study as I recall was from 18 to 30, and so he is not

 

         14    down in the lowest end of that age range, but I would

 

         15    characterize him as being on the younger side in terms of that

 

         16    study.  In terms of more prior arrests and convictions, he has a

 

         17    number of prior arrests, all, you know, involving domestic

 

         18    situations, there is not a spectrum of arrests he has, but he

 

         19    has had multiple arrests.

 

         20       Q.   In multiple jurisdictions?

 

         21       A.   That's correct.

 

         22       Q.   Male and female victims?

 

         23       A.   There are both male and female victims, the male victims

 

         24    involved in each case are in a context of a disturbed

 

         25    relationship with a female.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1       Q.   Did you testify in Richmond last year that Dean Beckford

 

          2    was a low risk because he did not have prior violent

 

          3    convictions?

 

          4       A.   I don't recall that I identified him specifically as a

 

          5    low risk for that reason alone.  As we individualize the risk

 

          6    assessment, that may have been one of the issues that I

 

          7    identified that could have a potential bearing.

 

          8       Q.   I have a transcript, would you like to see it?

 

          9       A.   I certainly would, be glad to.

 

         10       Q.   If you turn your attention to the United States v.

 

         11    Beckford case, and if you turn to page 69 of that case.  Does

 

         12    page 69, carry over to 70, indicate testimony concerning the

 

         13    chart we previously have seen concerning the prior criminal

 

         14    histories?

 

         15       A.   Give me a moment and let me review this.  (Pause.)

 

         16            In response to your earlier question, this testimony

 

         17    does not reflect that I said that he was a lower risk because of

 

         18    an absence of prior arrests for violent offenses.  In my

 

         19    testimony here, I was identifying the distribution of

 

         20    individuals by the percentages on the chart and where he fell

 

         21    associated with those.  But I don't see a statement that

 

         22    reflects about a specific risk assessment to him.

 

         23       Q.   Go ahead and read carry over to 71.

 

         24       A.   Okay.  (Pause.) I have read those, and there is nothing

 

         25    here where I'm making a specific individualized risk assessment

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          866

 

 

          1    about him in response to this table.  I'm simply pointing out

 

          2    where he is in relation to the table.

 

          3       Q.   Do you recall testifying in the Beckford case which

 

          4    involved the defendant participated in more than one gang

 

          5    related murder --

 

          6            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Objection, objection.

 

          7            THE COURT:  Let him get the question out first.  Start

 

          8    over.

 

          9            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         10       Q.   Dean Beckford was a defendant who was involved in a gang

 

         11    and involved in multiple gang related murders, correct?

 

         12            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Object to relevance.

 

         13            THE COURT:  Overruled.

 

         14            THE WITNESS:  Some of the specifics of case I may not

 

         15    recall as clearly as it's been a number of months.  As I recall,

 

         16    he was convicted of participating in a continuing criminal

 

         17    enterprise.  Whether that was a gang or not is perhaps difficult

 

         18    to characterize specifically.

 

         19            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         20       Q.   It was a drug organization?

 

         21       A.   There was drug-related trafficking, and he was convicted

 

         22    of that in a continuing criminal enterprise case, that's

 

         23    correct.

 

         24       Q.   Did you testify that he was low risk because he was

 

         25    older than 30, lacked prior arrests and came from a stable

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          867

 

 

          1    family?

 

          2       A.   I described that he was a low risk because of the base

 

          3    rates about capital offenders.  As I individualize those base

 

          4    rates to him, there are factors such as you identified that

 

          5    reduce the likelihood of his behaving in a violent fashion in a

 

          6    prison environment and among those included his age as well as

 

          7    some other characteristics that I think are beyond -- in

 

          8    addition to the ones you just described.

 

          9       Q.   Did you testify in the United States v Ingle case in

 

         10    Arkansas that there will always be mitigating factors in a death

 

         11    penalty case?

 

         12       A.   Yeah, I think that in most instances there will be

 

         13    mitigating factors that are present.  Those may not rise to a

 

         14    level outbalancing the aggravating factors in the minds of the

 

         15    jury, but I would expect that in all instances there are

 

         16    features about someone's history that are relevant for the jury

 

         17    to hear and to weigh.

 

         18       Q.   Having flown in from Abilene, Texas yesterday, is it

 

         19    fair to say that you were never present when any of the events

 

         20    of the defendant's life that you testified about occurred?

 

         21       A.   No, I was not present when during those events, I only

 

         22    had those reported to me by third parties that I have spoken to,

 

         23    his description, interviews that Cindy Maxwell undertook, and

 

         24    records.

 

         25       Q.   Would you say that when you interviewed the defendant a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    couple days before jury selection in this trial and interviewed

 

          2    other people January 24th when this trial started, that the

 

          3    defendant and his family knew that his capital murder trial was

 

          4    about to occur?

 

          5       A.   Certainly they did.

 

          6       Q.   And did that in any way affect your assessment of his

 

          7    candor?

 

          8       A.   I am always reasonably sceptical of the interview

 

          9    information that I get from any defendant, whether it's in a

 

         10    capital case or other cases, which is part of why I think it's

 

         11    so important to review records and to talk to third parties, not

 

         12    just family members but if possible to get information from

 

         13    employers and guards and police officers and people who are --

 

         14    who can give both varying perspectives and are less likely to be

 

         15    influenced perhaps by the pending trial.

 

         16       Q.   Did you reflect in any portion of your page and a half

 

         17    report or in your presentation today those areas if any that you

 

         18    were skeptical of the information that the defendant gave you?

 

         19       A.   I don't know that I identified -- I don't think those

 

         20    are specifically identified in the report that I gave, nor were

 

         21    those probed on direct.  So I have not spoken to those issues.

 

         22            MR. CONRAD:  If I could have a minute.

 

         23            (Pause.)

 

         24            MR. CONRAD:  That's all I have.

 

         25            THE COURT:  Redirect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          869

 

 

          1            MR. WILLIAMS:  I would just like to clear -- make

 

          2    something clear, where is the government's exhibit, if Your

 

          3    Honor please, Mr. Conrad that you showed this witness?

 

          4            MR. CONRAD:  I showed him a lot of exhibits.

 

          5            MR. WILLIAMS:  The notice, Exhibit 71.

 

          6            May I approach the witness, Your Honor.

 

          7            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

          8            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

          9       Q.   I believe you were asked, Dr. Cunningham, whether or not

 

         10    you filed a report.  And I believe the government referred to

 

         11    the word -- used the word report on December 10th and showed you

 

         12    Government's Exhibit 71?

 

         13       A.   That's correct.

 

         14       Q.   Is that your report?

 

         15       A.   No.

 

         16       Q.   That's not your report?

 

         17       A.   No, sir, I did not draft or prepare this or as I recall

 

         18    view it.

 

         19       Q.   And your name is not even on there and you didn't even

 

         20    sign that document, did you?

 

         21       A.   Well, my name is on there as somebody who is going to be

 

         22    coming to testify, but I didn't sign it.

 

         23       Q.   Well, that's what I meant by name on it.  You didn't

 

         24    sign that document?

 

         25       A.   No, I did not dictate or draft this or sign this, either

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          870

 

 

          1    one.

 

          2       Q.   In all fairness, that is a document captioned, is it

 

          3    not, Defense Notice to Government of Intent to Introduce Mental

 

          4    Health Testimony at the Penalty Phase filed by Mr. Barnette's

 

          5    lawyers Paul Williams and George Laughrun, is that correct?

 

          6       A.   That's correct.

 

          7       Q.   Simply notifying the government of the intent to use you

 

          8    as an expert witness with regard to the issue of future

 

          9    dangerousness, and that's all that notice is, is that correct?

 

         10       A.   That's correct.

 

         11       Q.   As a matter of fact, the document that you filed as a

 

         12    report, is it not, and I will show you a document which I will

 

         13    mark as Defendant's Exhibit --

 

         14            MR. LAUGHRUN:  60.

 

         15            MR. WILLIAMS:  60.

 

         16            BY MR. WILLIAMS:

 

         17       Q.   If you didn't tender your report signed by yourself on

 

         18    January 14, 1998?

 

         19       A.   That was filed on January 14th, I believe mine is dated

 

         20    January 9th.

 

         21       Q.   The date of your report is January 9?

 

         22       A.   Filed January 14th.

 

         23       Q.   And that's the report that you signed -- filed at that

 

         24    time?

 

         25       A.   That's the preliminary report, that's correct.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            MR. WILLIAMS:  That's all, Your Honor.

 

          2            MR. CONRAD:  Brief follow-up Judge.

 

          3            RECROSS EXAMINATION.

 

          4       Q.   Now, the notice which is Government's Exhibit 71, in

 

          5    that notice, there is listed under Paragraph 3 your name and a

 

          6    brief general summary of the topics you testified about,

 

          7    correct?

 

          8       A.   Of the general actuarial information that I testified

 

          9    regarding.  It indicates that I will testify regarding risk of

 

         10    future violence, as I recall, you have to let me see it again to

 

         11    tell you exactly what it says.

 

         12       Q.   (Hands document to witness.)

 

         13       A.   Yes, sir.  If I were to testify for the U.S. Attorney's

 

         14    Office, this is also the same way that I would describe my

 

         15    pending testimony to used to describe.

 

         16            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, I object, that's totally

 

         17    nonresponsive to the question.

 

         18            THE COURT:  Listen to the question and answer the

 

         19    question.  Restate your question.

 

         20            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         21       Q.   Paragraph 3 in that notice mentions you by name and

 

         22    gives a general summary of your testimony, does it not?

 

         23       A.   It says I will -- yes, does not particularize the

 

         24    defendant.  It says that I will address the issues -- the topics

 

         25    that Dr. Cunningham will address relate to the issue of future

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                          872

 

 

          1    dangerousness of the defendant and the future dangerousness of

 

          2    capital defendants in general as well as potential mitigation

 

          3    testimony in this regard.  This does not speak to what that

 

          4    testimony will be.

 

          5       Q.   In order for this document to be filed, you would have

 

          6    had to communicate that information to the defense attorneys,

 

          7    would you have not had to do that?

 

          8       A.   I would have had to communicate, this is the scope of my

 

          9    testimony.  That testimony -- this is testimony I may or may not

 

         10    have been actually called to deliver depending on whether or not

 

         11    the outcome or nature of it was particularized to the defendant

 

         12    was seen as being helpful to the defendant's case I suppose.

 

         13            But what I am going to address if I'm called to testify

 

         14    are issues of future dangerousness about this defendant, issues

 

         15    of future dangerousness of capital offenders in general, and

 

         16    issues that may relate to mitigation.

 

         17       Q.   And you communicated that to those guys over there?

 

         18            MR. WILLIAMS:  Objection to the phraseology "those

 

         19    guys."

 

         20            THE COURT:  All right, defense counsel.

 

         21            BY MR. CONRAD:

 

         22       Q.   And you communicated that to either Mr. Laughrun or Mr.

 

         23    Williams on or before December 10th?

 

         24       A.   I communicated that the nature of issues that I would

 

         25    evaluate in a capital sentencing proceedings include the

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    defendant's future dangerousness, the future dangerousness of

 

          2    the capital offenders in general, and the relevance of any

 

          3    mitigation issues.  And that would be the nature of testimony.

 

          4            If someone in any capital case said, if you appear here

 

          5    and testify, what are you going -- what are the issues you are

 

          6    going to testify about, that's what I would identify.  If I am

 

          7    doing evaluations of competency and criminal responsibility and

 

          8    they say what are you going to testify about, I'm going to say

 

          9    I'm going to testify about the defendant's competency to stand

 

         10    trial and his mental state at time of the offense.  This does to

 

         11    speak to my party determining my outcome of the conclusions of

 

         12    that testimony.  These are the areas that I'm going to address.

 

         13       Q.   And you told that to those lawyers a month before you

 

         14    interviewed the defendant?

 

         15       A.   That those are the issues that I would testify about if

 

         16    called, that's correct.

 

         17            MR. CONRAD:  That's all I have.

 

         18            MR. WILLIAMS:  That's all.  No further questions, Your

 

         19    Honor.

 

         20            THE COURT:  Thank you, sir, come down.  Any more

 

         21    witnesses?

 

         22            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Judge, we have a videotape to play, take

 

         23    about two minutes to set up, if we can have five minutes to set

 

         24    that up.

 

         25            THE COURT:  You want to take a short recess while we do

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1    that?  Do not discuss the case among yourselves.

 

          2            (The jury left the courtroom.).

 

          3            THE COURT:  Recess until 2:50 if that's enough time.

 

          4                             (Brief recess.)

 

          5            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, could we approach on the side

 

          6    real quickly.

 

          7            THE COURT:  Yes.

 

          8            (Bench conference not recorded.)

 

          9            (The jury returned to the courtroom.)

 

         10            THE COURT:  Members of the jury, remember when we

 

         11    started the court reporter had not arrived, I just started after

 

         12    the lunch period.  As I recall I asked Mr. Conrad to repeat

 

         13    everything that had been done and the witness did too.  In any

 

         14    event disregard anything that was said while the court reporter

 

         15    was not here.  I don't think there is any conflict.  Thank you.

 

         16    Is that satisfactory?

 

         17            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Yes, sir, no objection.  And that was

 

         18    what was discussed just a second ago, and no objection to that

 

         19    at all.

 

         20            Judge, at this time we would offer Defendant's Exhibit

 

         21    19 which has been stipulated to by the government.

 

         22            THE COURT:  19.

 

         23            MR. LAUGHRUN:  It is a videotape of part of

 

         24    Mr. Barnette's confession.  It's set up and I would like to play

 

         25    that for the jury at this time, if Your Honor please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Okay.

 

          2                      (Videotape played for the jury. )

 

          3            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Judge, at this time we have some exhibits

 

          4    to offer.  At this time we offer Defendant's Exhibit 2, 2 A, 11,

 

          5    17, 21, 26, 26 A, 27, 28 A through D inclusive.

 

          6            THE COURT:  A, B and C.

 

          7            MR. LAUGHRUN:  I'm sorry, Your Honor?

 

          8            THE COURT:  A, B and C.

 

          9            MR. LAUGHRUN:  29 A, B, C and D, 33, 37.  37A, Judge, is

 

         10    a big blowup of 37; 38 and 38 A, which is a big blowup of 30 A;

 

         11    39 and 39 A, which is big blowup of 39; 42, -- 32, I'm sorry, I

 

         12    had one out of order; 32, 45, 46, 47, Your Honor, A through I,

 

         13    and 47 J, K and L that was mounted on the poster board.  Your

 

         14    Honor, 48 A, B, C and D; 49, 50, 51, 52, 53 A, 53 B, 56, 58, and

 

         15    the life line, Your Honor, which the jury saw this morning which

 

         16    is 43, and the blowup of that, 43 A.  If we did not offer that,

 

         17    we would offer that at this time.  And 59 I believe Your Honor

 

         18    was the exhibit book that the jury saw this morning with the

 

         19    time line and the artwork if Your Honor please.

 

         20            THE COURT:  59, I think, was the notebook, I believe.

 

         21            THE CLERK:  59 was the black notebook, Cunningham

 

         22    notebook.

 

         23            MR. LAUGHRUN:  59.  Judge, and we would like to pass

 

         24    these exhibits, they have not been distributed to the jury and

 

         25    publish these to the jury at this time if we can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE COURT:  Photographs?

 

          2            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Some are photographs, some are documents,

 

          3    some of them are court records and the like, if we can pass

 

          4    those to the jury, if Your Honor please.

 

          5            THE COURT:  All right, let them be admitted.  Any

 

          6    objection to those.

 

          7            MR. WALKER:  (Shakes head.)

 

          8            THE COURT:  They will all be admitted.

 

          9            MR. LAUGHRUN:  And judge, Exhibit 40, I apologize.

 

         10            THE COURT:  40?

 

         11            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Yes, sir.

 

         12            THE COURT:  Let's it be admitted.  Is that the front

 

         13    page, I guess.

 

         14            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Whole thing, I don't care for them to

 

         15    look at the whole thing, just the front page.

 

         16            THE COURT:  They are not going to sit here and read the

 

         17    whole paper?

 

         18            MR. LAUGHRUN:  No, sir.

 

         19            MR. CONRAD:  Your Honor, could we approach while the

 

         20    jurors are looking at the exhibit.

 

         21            (Bench conference not recorded.).

 

         22            MR. LAUGHRUN:  May I approach the clerk with these

 

         23    exhibits, they were offered and viewed by the jury in phase

 

         24    one,.

 

         25            THE COURT:  Yes, sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            Mr. Conrad, to save time, will you check with Ms. Grier

 

          2    to make sure everything is in.

 

          3            MR. CONRAD:  Yes, sir.

 

          4            (Long pause while jury looks at documents.)

 

          5            THE COURT:  I believe everybody has now seen all of the

 

          6    exhibits.

 

          7            (Jurors nod heads.)

 

          8            THE COURT:  Members of the jury we will recess for the

 

          9    evening and ask you to come back in the morning at 9:30.  Do not

 

         10    discuss anything with anyone about this case, do not look at

 

         11    anything on TV about it.  Be careful going home, there is a

 

         12    little rain out there.  See you tomorrow morning at 9:30, have a

 

         13    nice evening.

 

         14            (The jury left the courtroom.)

 

         15            THE COURT:  Mr. Laughrun, are you going to rest before

 

         16    the jury tomorrow morning.

 

         17            MR. LAUGHRUN:  That's fine.

 

         18            THE COURT:  I want to ask your client now.

 

         19            MR. LAUGHRUN:  Yes, sir.

 

         20            THE COURT:  Mr. Barnette, I assume you have been advised

 

         21    that you could testify and you know you have a right to testify

 

         22    in this case, is that correct?

 

         23            THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir.

 

         24            THE COURT:  Have you decided that you do not wish to

 

         25    testify in this case?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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          1            THE DEFENDANT:  That's correct.

 

          2            THE COURT:  You understand that you do not have to

 

          3    testify but you have been informed that you have a right to

 

          4    testify?  Do you want to testify?

 

          5            THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir.

 

          6            THE COURT:  You do not want to testify, is that

 

          7    correct?

 

          8            THE DEFENDANT:  That's correct.

 

          9            THE COURT:  Recess until tomorrow morning.

 

         10            MR. LAUGHRUN:  We had a bench conference earlier about

 

         11    scheduling of witnesses for tomorrow and that's all that was

 

         12    discussed.

 

         13            THE COURT:  Recess until tomorrow at 9:30.

 

         14            (Court in recess.) Al exhibit home thing that took place

 

         15    at the bench conference was /SKEDZ /KWRULG for today, tomorrow

 

         16    and the rest of the evenings.

 

         17            THE COURT:  Recess until 9:30

 

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